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>> all of the Arab world wants Israel to disappear Most, but not all of them. >> Israel would like Palestine to disappear There is more than a million Palest

by nec4b 3y ago

>> all of the Arab world wants Israel to disappear Most, but not all of them. >> Israel would like Palestine to disappear There is more than a million Palestinians living and working in Israel as its citizens. They hold positions in offices even such as a supreme court judge. >> as long as settlers continue to piecemeal expand the size of the state of Israel this isn't going to happen. Israel removed all its settlers from Gaza in 2005. In return it received shelling from Hamas. Hamas in not interested in solving anything, having talks about anything or making any kind of compromises.

jacquesm 3y ago
> Most, but not all of them. That's fair. > There is more than a million Palestinians living and working in Israel as its citizens. They hold positions in offices even such as a supreme court judge. You equate 'Palestine' with 'Palestinians', that's not the same thing. It's on par with equating Israel with Israeli's and many would point out that there is a very important distinction between the two. > Israel removed all its settlers from Gaza in 2005. Yes, but they kept on settling more and more area in the West bank and continue to do so even today, almost two decades later. It's akin to removing 'whites' from areas that were to be turned into 'homelands' prior to the establishment of the 'Apartheid' doctrine in South Africa, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan , there are a lot of parallels between those and Gaza / West Bank. > In return it received shelling from Hamas. In 2005 Hamas was a fringe group and all eyes were on the Palestinian Authority, which Israel has structurally undermined while at the same time supporting Hamas. > Hamas in not interested in solving anything, having talks about anything or making any kind of compromises. Neither are the Israeli hardliners who make a lot of policy.

by nec4b 3y ago

jacquesm 3y ago

> Most, but not all of them. That's fair. > There is more than a million Palestinians living and working in Israel as its citizens. They hold positions in offices even such as a supreme court judge. You equate 'Palestine' with 'Palestinians', that's not the same thing. It's on par with equating Israel with Israeli's and many would point out that there is a very important distinction between the two. > Israel removed all its settlers from Gaza in 2005. Yes, but they kept on settling more and more area in the West bank and continue to do so even today, almost two decades later. It's akin to removing 'whites' from areas that were to be turned into 'homelands' prior to the establishment of the 'Apartheid' doctrine in South Africa, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan , there are a lot of parallels between those and Gaza / West Bank. > In return it received shelling from Hamas. In 2005 Hamas was a fringe group and all eyes were on the Palestinian Authority, which Israel has structurally undermined while at the same time supporting Hamas. > Hamas in not interested in solving anything, having talks about anything or making any kind of compromises. Neither are the Israeli hardliners who make a lot of policy.