One of the things not touched here is “what’s the alternative?” Yeah, we talk about touching grass and meeting people in real life. Have you noticed how hard i

One of the things not touched here is “what’s the alternative?” Yeah, we talk about touching grass and meeting people in real life. Have you noticed how hard it is to meet people in real life and form any kind of connection? Men are lonelier than ever because they have nowhere to go to meet people just for friendship - let alone romance. There are a severe lack of third spaces for all of us to congregate at. People start suggesting “hobbymaxx, bro! Rock climb, raves, CrossFit!” But completely ignore that some people don’t have existing hobbies or interests that align with these suggestions. I love motorcycles and sports cars. I’ve done group rides and whatnot. It’s all dudes. There has never been even one woman who has shown up even with groups of 50. A lot of these other hobbies are completely swarmed with men as well and then you have the status element of it - which takes years of grinding to achieve. You’re not likely to meet someone and go on a date in your first month of CrossFit or rock climbing. Maybe after 5 years of going 3-5x/week, establishing a name, and really getting involved in organizing and whatnot. Even then, might still just be too many dudes or it doesn’t attract the type of women you’re into! Hobbymaxxing advice is worthless for people who aren’t inherently interested in the activity and would do it anyway. It’s mostly people with survivorship bias that are advertising hobbies. Our society is so atomized and individual. You can blame cars or whatever but even here in nyc, it’s hard to chat women up because they’re all getting increasing amounts of stranger danger. Creepy dude just hit on her last week in an impolite and aggressive manner making her feel really unsafe. Homeless dude just chased after her on the street a couple days ago. The guy manning the bathrooms at the club catcalled her while she’s going to the bathroom just now. This is a real example of a woman I know - not made up shit. If you had to deal with the level of harassment that attractive women get in places like NYC - you’d probably have your guard really high too. And only the most amazing of circumstances might ever lower their guard - which means your odds are real bad. Point is: our culture sucks and the way we’re allowing a lot of men in real life to treat women is not helping women get out there more. We need to get rid of this violent homeless epidemic, get rid of these creepy aggressive dudes hitting on everyone and not taking no for an answer, and get rid of shitty people who just want to say stupid shit to any woman at all. I thought with me too at least two of these would be gone but not at all - especially in nyc. It doesn’t take much for most women to be traumatized and have severe dislike for going out btw. The woman I described is incredibly uncommon in her resilience.