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It’s absolutely not more satisfying. This is not shared across people like some sort of natural way of being. There are plenty of things I can learn how to make

It’s absolutely not more satisfying. This is not shared across people like some sort of natural way of being. There are plenty of things I can learn how to make but can’t be fucked because I’ll never find satisfaction in doing so. Cooking is a great one, I can cook quite well but I still hate doing it. Just because I can make something well, it doesn’t give me any extra satisfaction. I’d still rather buy a good spaghetti than make and I surely enjoy one I didn’t cook more because I didn’t have to do shit.

trealira 3y ago
I hadn't considered that not everyone would agree with what I said; thanks for telling me what you think.
mynameisash 3y ago
My understanding is that much research does, in fact, show that it's more satisfying. Kids enjoy food more (eg, are less picky) when they've contributed to making it. People tend to value their own, lower-quality artwork than someone else's higher-quality work because they themselves put the effort into making it (and have some emotional connection to it). I want to say I first heard of this finding through Jonathan Haidt or Daniel Gilbert, but a cursory search doesn't bring up the study.
- rubyn00bie 3y ago
  This sounds like a common myth and not fact. I’d be happy to read research but I’m not going to bother myself because I 1) doubt very much it exists, 2) doubt that it’s remotely conclusive or good.
xedrac 3y ago
The point is more general than cooking. Clearly if you hate cooking, it's going to negatively affect how you feel about your efforts cooking. But the point still stands. Putting in effort to achieve something you want will very likely make you value it more. I built a new shower in my master bathroom - it's easily my favorite shower now because I made it. I built a road bike from individual parts, and it's my favorite bike, even though it's heavier and uglier than other bikes. I raise my kids every day, and I value them more than other kids, etc...
- rubyn00bie 3y ago
  You’re missing my point entirely. It doesn’t. Thats what I’m saying there are plenty of things I can do, or learn to do, that I still hate. It doesn’t give me more value learning to do it myself because I just don’t care about somethings. It’s assumed and incorrectly so that this is some sort of shared natural way of being.

trealira 3y ago

I hadn't considered that not everyone would agree with what I said; thanks for telling me what you think.

mynameisash 3y ago

My understanding is that much research does, in fact, show that it's more satisfying. Kids enjoy food more (eg, are less picky) when they've contributed to making it. People tend to value their own, lower-quality artwork than someone else's higher-quality work because they themselves put the effort into making it (and have some emotional connection to it). I want to say I first heard of this finding through Jonathan Haidt or Daniel Gilbert, but a cursory search doesn't bring up the study.

rubyn00bie 3y ago
This sounds like a common myth and not fact. I’d be happy to read research but I’m not going to bother myself because I 1) doubt very much it exists, 2) doubt that it’s remotely conclusive or good.

xedrac 3y ago

The point is more general than cooking. Clearly if you hate cooking, it's going to negatively affect how you feel about your efforts cooking. But the point still stands. Putting in effort to achieve something you want will very likely make you value it more. I built a new shower in my master bathroom - it's easily my favorite shower now because I made it. I built a road bike from individual parts, and it's my favorite bike, even though it's heavier and uglier than other bikes. I raise my kids every day, and I value them more than other kids, etc...

rubyn00bie 3y ago
You’re missing my point entirely. It doesn’t. Thats what I’m saying there are plenty of things I can do, or learn to do, that I still hate. It doesn’t give me more value learning to do it myself because I just don’t care about somethings. It’s assumed and incorrectly so that this is some sort of shared natural way of being.