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My wife leased a car for 2 years and never put enough miles on it to require the oil to be changed. Does that qualify are damaging the vehicle? Hertz works by

by a2tech 3y ago

My wife leased a car for 2 years and never put enough miles on it to require the oil to be changed. Does that qualify are damaging the vehicle? Hertz works by flipping cars every few years (2-3, depending on mileage) and post rental inspections for obvious damage. It's not too complicated.

throwaway5959 3y ago
Your wife didn’t change the oil on her (leased) car for two years?
DoesntMatter22 3y ago
She only drove 3000 miles per year?
- hef19898 3y ago
  Oil changes are what, every 30k km for new cars? Totally possible to not have a single service or oil change in two years.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    You should probably get it changed once a year--although it also probably isn't some grave error to let it go a couple years if you haven't been putting a lot of miles on.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      OEM maintenance manuals for wvery newish car I had, across miltiple brands, since MY 2008 an initial service interval of 3 years, and then 30,000 km or two years. Yearly oil changes stopped being a thing in the 90s, unless we talk about heavy use and / or harsh environments.
      - Tempest1981 3y ago
        Although check the definition of "heavy use" -- it may include commuting during rush hour.
        hef19898 3y ago
        Heavy use: really bad roads, dust, pulling heavy loads, very high temperatures, track use (high speed on motorways is different), very high milage... Your daily communte is not heavy use, unless it is through Sahara or something...
        vel0city 3y ago
        According to my manual (a Hyundai), some of the "severe" usages which suggest a quicker oil change interval are: - repeated short distance driving - extended periods of idling or low peed operation - more than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hot weather above 90F If you've got a commute in heavy traffic in a Southern US state or just a really short commute of only a few miles where you're not really getting things well up to temp, its pretty easy to hit these "severe" situations.
  - pvaldes 3y ago
    It depends on the type of oil, but is either Km or time, what happens first
- kelnos 3y ago
  I own my car, and that's about how much I drive; less, actually, I think. Not having a daily commute and mostly only using the car for longer trips (I live in a walkable city with decent transit) helps. It's nice to have a lower insurance rate for driving much less, too. I've considered it might be overall cheaper ditching the car and renting (or ubering, which I do sometimes) when I need one, but I value having the car ready to go at an unplanned moment's notice. And I just prefer having my own car that I'm familiar and comfortable with.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    I'm only about 5,000 miles these days and I don't even live in a city. No commute. Don't drive into the city all that often. Take long weekend trips of up to maybe high triple digits miles--but, again, not that frequently. But absolutely could not live where I do without my own car.
tohnjitor 3y ago
It does because engine oil degrades over time.
- hef19898 3y ago
  Synthetic oil doesn't really so. Edit: long perioda of a car not driven has the effect of not all gearbox and enhine parts being lubricated, that has a negative effect on oil as all that corrusion is ending up in the oil. That so has nothing to do with yearly millage, pulling a car out of storage every 11 months to drive 50,000 miles in one go has the same issues, and a lot more on top.
  - olyjohn 3y ago
    It still does. Especially after heat cycling, and taking on all the garbage that gets past the rings, and all the moisture that collects in the crankcase. Maybe sitting on a shelf is fine, but in the engine it definitely will break down. It lasts longer than conventional but isn't indestructible.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Sure, but much longer than mineral oils (since when those aren't OEM spec anymore?). Hence the two year / 30k km interballs (whatever happens first.
  - alphabettsy 3y ago
    Water and gasoline still dilute the oil regardless and synthetics are still affected.
linsomniac 3y ago
... why are we talking about oil changes on cars that have none? :-)
pvaldes 3y ago
>leased a car for 2 years and never put enough miles on it to require the oil to be changed. Does that qualify are damaging the vehicle? Yes, is recommended to change oil each 12 months at least

by a2tech 3y ago

throwaway5959 3y ago

Your wife didn’t change the oil on her (leased) car for two years?

DoesntMatter22 3y ago

She only drove 3000 miles per year?

hef19898 3y ago
Oil changes are what, every 30k km for new cars? Totally possible to not have a single service or oil change in two years.
- ghaff 3y ago
  You should probably get it changed once a year--although it also probably isn't some grave error to let it go a couple years if you haven't been putting a lot of miles on.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    OEM maintenance manuals for wvery newish car I had, across miltiple brands, since MY 2008 an initial service interval of 3 years, and then 30,000 km or two years. Yearly oil changes stopped being a thing in the 90s, unless we talk about heavy use and / or harsh environments.
    - Tempest1981 3y ago
      Although check the definition of "heavy use" -- it may include commuting during rush hour.
      - hef19898 3y ago
        Heavy use: really bad roads, dust, pulling heavy loads, very high temperatures, track use (high speed on motorways is different), very high milage... Your daily communte is not heavy use, unless it is through Sahara or something...
        vel0city 3y ago
        According to my manual (a Hyundai), some of the "severe" usages which suggest a quicker oil change interval are: - repeated short distance driving - extended periods of idling or low peed operation - more than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hot weather above 90F If you've got a commute in heavy traffic in a Southern US state or just a really short commute of only a few miles where you're not really getting things well up to temp, its pretty easy to hit these "severe" situations.
- pvaldes 3y ago
  It depends on the type of oil, but is either Km or time, what happens first
kelnos 3y ago
I own my car, and that's about how much I drive; less, actually, I think. Not having a daily commute and mostly only using the car for longer trips (I live in a walkable city with decent transit) helps. It's nice to have a lower insurance rate for driving much less, too. I've considered it might be overall cheaper ditching the car and renting (or ubering, which I do sometimes) when I need one, but I value having the car ready to go at an unplanned moment's notice. And I just prefer having my own car that I'm familiar and comfortable with.
- ghaff 3y ago
  I'm only about 5,000 miles these days and I don't even live in a city. No commute. Don't drive into the city all that often. Take long weekend trips of up to maybe high triple digits miles--but, again, not that frequently. But absolutely could not live where I do without my own car.

tohnjitor 3y ago

It does because engine oil degrades over time.

hef19898 3y ago
Synthetic oil doesn't really so. Edit: long perioda of a car not driven has the effect of not all gearbox and enhine parts being lubricated, that has a negative effect on oil as all that corrusion is ending up in the oil. That so has nothing to do with yearly millage, pulling a car out of storage every 11 months to drive 50,000 miles in one go has the same issues, and a lot more on top.
- olyjohn 3y ago
  It still does. Especially after heat cycling, and taking on all the garbage that gets past the rings, and all the moisture that collects in the crankcase. Maybe sitting on a shelf is fine, but in the engine it definitely will break down. It lasts longer than conventional but isn't indestructible.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Sure, but much longer than mineral oils (since when those aren't OEM spec anymore?). Hence the two year / 30k km interballs (whatever happens first.
- alphabettsy 3y ago
  Water and gasoline still dilute the oil regardless and synthetics are still affected.

linsomniac 3y ago

... why are we talking about oil changes on cars that have none? :-)

pvaldes 3y ago

>leased a car for 2 years and never put enough miles on it to require the oil to be changed. Does that qualify are damaging the vehicle? Yes, is recommended to change oil each 12 months at least