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I don't think this has much to do with dating apps, AFAIK among the best analysis on this topic is still DOI: 10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2 from 2004.

by lvass 3y ago

geraldhh 3y ago
https://sci-hub.st/10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2 https://sci-hub.st/10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2
claytongulick 3y ago
The entire premise of that analysis is broken by a simple truth - that while rarely discussed in "polite society", it turns out that women enjoy sex too.
- InSteady 3y ago
  I've only read the abstract, but I think your pithy analysis doesn't seem to undermine the hypothesis that sexuality in society can be analyzed through an economic lens. After all, sellers of goods and services tend to enjoy the activity of selling, but many other incentives and interactions can also be in play at the same time.
  - claytongulick 3y ago
    Marketplace economics like those done in the paper don't apply well when both parties are buyers. They also rest on concepts of resource scarcity, which is an artificial construct in the context of post birth control sex. Artificial scarcity rarely lasts long in markets, it can only be propped up by industry collusion. The 50's model of "precious chastity" sexual relations just doesn't apply to current interpersonal dynamics. The risk factors that drove that model are very different today and have freed both women and men in different ways.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >while rarely discussed in "polite society", it turns out that women enjoy sex too. Men don't discuss their sexual prowess in "polite society" either. It's not the 90's anymore.
  - claytongulick 3y ago
    I think you may have misinterpreted my point. Or I'm misunderstanding yours - where did I say anything about men discussing sexual prowess? If you read the linked research paper, I think you'll understand the point I was making better.
kukkeliskuu 3y ago
It is easier to talk about this in the context of dating apps. This phenomenon appears to touch some taboos, and I think that explains why these discussions never get anywhere. You can always find narratives that support what you want to believe, because social behavior is so complex. When we concentrate on the statistical analysis of differences of experiences men and women have in dating apps, it is easier to keep the talk about the actual phenomenon.

I don't think this has much to do with dating apps, AFAIK among the best analysis on this topic is still DOI: 10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2 from 2004.

by lvass 3y ago

I don't think this has much to do with dating apps, AFAIK among the best analysis on this topic is still DOI: 10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2 from 2004.

geraldhh 3y ago

https://sci-hub.st/10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2 https://sci-hub.st/10.1207/s15327957pspr0804_2

claytongulick 3y ago

The entire premise of that analysis is broken by a simple truth - that while rarely discussed in "polite society", it turns out that women enjoy sex too.

InSteady 3y ago
I've only read the abstract, but I think your pithy analysis doesn't seem to undermine the hypothesis that sexuality in society can be analyzed through an economic lens. After all, sellers of goods and services tend to enjoy the activity of selling, but many other incentives and interactions can also be in play at the same time.
- claytongulick 3y ago
  Marketplace economics like those done in the paper don't apply well when both parties are buyers. They also rest on concepts of resource scarcity, which is an artificial construct in the context of post birth control sex. Artificial scarcity rarely lasts long in markets, it can only be propped up by industry collusion. The 50's model of "precious chastity" sexual relations just doesn't apply to current interpersonal dynamics. The risk factors that drove that model are very different today and have freed both women and men in different ways.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
>while rarely discussed in "polite society", it turns out that women enjoy sex too. Men don't discuss their sexual prowess in "polite society" either. It's not the 90's anymore.
- claytongulick 3y ago
  I think you may have misinterpreted my point. Or I'm misunderstanding yours - where did I say anything about men discussing sexual prowess? If you read the linked research paper, I think you'll understand the point I was making better.

kukkeliskuu 3y ago

It is easier to talk about this in the context of dating apps. This phenomenon appears to touch some taboos, and I think that explains why these discussions never get anywhere. You can always find narratives that support what you want to believe, because social behavior is so complex. When we concentrate on the statistical analysis of differences of experiences men and women have in dating apps, it is easier to keep the talk about the actual phenomenon.