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"predatory monetization" Yeah...the goal of these dating apps is not to have you happily be in a relationship and stop paying them money.

dylan604 3y ago
Every thing is a SaaS mentality. Dating apps need you to forever be dating to keep you paying.Pharmaceuticals don't want cures, but forever treatments. We have pretty much completely moved to a rent seeking society
- trident5000 3y ago
  Absolutely. Its probably time the govt steps in and shifts patent law to favor cures over treatments. There will be incredible resistance to this from lobbyists though. Other thing they need to do is eliminate the requirement that all new treatments reviewed by the FDA meet the requirement of a "disease". Theres a lot of things people want out of lets say gene therapy that is not strictly a disease but benefits your health in the end. And I dont know why cosmetic or enhancing treatments should not be considered as well. They need to loosen up. FDA approval for (gene therapy for instance) is taking something like 15 years to get approved. And only their narrow definition of whats necessary for the public is even considered. This is an absurd situation. Govt red tape is literally killing us.
- c0pium 3y ago
  > Pharmaceuticals don't want cures, but forever treatments You don’t have to look very hard to realize this trope is totally wrong, just google “vaccine”.
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  - ctoth 3y ago
    Oh man why didn't I think of this? The Vaccine I'm about to get is the third one for a very popular disease, and somehow it will just ... maybe possibly keep me from catching it for ... maybe a year or something? Of course, alternative treatments such as the nasal spray that is supposed to totally eliminate the disease have, well, lost funding[0]. But I guess those vaccines, right? They just prove that we don't live in a rent-seeking society. [0]: The End of Vaccines at ‘Warp Speed’ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/health/covid-nasal-vaccines-warp-speed.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/health/covid-nasal-vaccin...
    - johnnyanmac 3y ago
      Even family guy had a episode about this. Rich Father-in-law is sitting on a cure for cancer because he owns the pharmaceutical and can profit more off cancer treatment. Not saying that FG is a good oracle to go off of, but if it's such a prolific mindset that comedy shows are riffing on the concept the people up top have definitely crunched numbers on such factors.
      - c0pium 3y ago
        This is the rhetorical equivalent of saying “no offense” and then saying something offensive. Either you think it’s a meaningful example, which you manifestly do, or you think that it’s a joke and shouldn’t be considered seriously. You can’t have it both ways, and trying to just removes credence from your argument. Family Guy also jokes about virtually every other conspiracy theory, yet birds do in fact exist.
        johnnyanmac 3y ago
        >Either you think it’s a meaningful example, which you manifestly do, or you think that it’s a joke and shouldn’t be considered seriously. comedy is awareness, and awareness is an important first step. But awareness is not hard proof. It's at best a step to start investigations with. So I don't know what you want me to say. I do see it both ways. Maybe there is a point, but nothing I can argue in a real capacity. >Family Guy also jokes about virtually every other conspiracy theory Indeed. but FG can be strangely prohetic at times. Not always (Trump Guy aired in like, 2019, 3-4 years after everyone made every joke in the book. And FG didn't add much there), but said episode aired in 2012. So we're talking nearly a decade before the internet consensus started taking this hard cynical anti-capitalistic approach.
        c0pium 3y ago
        Comedy is awareness of what’s funny. That’s it. It might tangentially be related to what’s true, but that’s at best a happy accident. I take it you weren’t around in the 90s when Chris Rock made this exact joke (it was on Bigger and Blacker), and it killed. People have thought that doctors were after repeat business for as long as there have been doctors. This is a commonly held belief because treating symptoms always* come first. It always comes first not because the pharmacryptoluminati are ghouls after money, but because it’s easier. But that’s not a good punchline.
  - ilkke 3y ago
    Very true. Then again, vaccines do now come with DLC booster packs

dylan604 3y ago

Every thing is a SaaS mentality. Dating apps need you to forever be dating to keep you paying.Pharmaceuticals don't want cures, but forever treatments. We have pretty much completely moved to a rent seeking society

trident5000 3y ago
Absolutely. Its probably time the govt steps in and shifts patent law to favor cures over treatments. There will be incredible resistance to this from lobbyists though. Other thing they need to do is eliminate the requirement that all new treatments reviewed by the FDA meet the requirement of a "disease". Theres a lot of things people want out of lets say gene therapy that is not strictly a disease but benefits your health in the end. And I dont know why cosmetic or enhancing treatments should not be considered as well. They need to loosen up. FDA approval for (gene therapy for instance) is taking something like 15 years to get approved. And only their narrow definition of whats necessary for the public is even considered. This is an absurd situation. Govt red tape is literally killing us.
c0pium 3y ago
> Pharmaceuticals don't want cures, but forever treatments You don’t have to look very hard to realize this trope is totally wrong, just google “vaccine”.
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- ctoth 3y ago
  Oh man why didn't I think of this? The Vaccine I'm about to get is the third one for a very popular disease, and somehow it will just ... maybe possibly keep me from catching it for ... maybe a year or something? Of course, alternative treatments such as the nasal spray that is supposed to totally eliminate the disease have, well, lost funding[0]. But I guess those vaccines, right? They just prove that we don't live in a rent-seeking society. [0]: The End of Vaccines at ‘Warp Speed’ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/health/covid-nasal-vaccines-warp-speed.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/health/covid-nasal-vaccin...
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    Even family guy had a episode about this. Rich Father-in-law is sitting on a cure for cancer because he owns the pharmaceutical and can profit more off cancer treatment. Not saying that FG is a good oracle to go off of, but if it's such a prolific mindset that comedy shows are riffing on the concept the people up top have definitely crunched numbers on such factors.
    - c0pium 3y ago
      This is the rhetorical equivalent of saying “no offense” and then saying something offensive. Either you think it’s a meaningful example, which you manifestly do, or you think that it’s a joke and shouldn’t be considered seriously. You can’t have it both ways, and trying to just removes credence from your argument. Family Guy also jokes about virtually every other conspiracy theory, yet birds do in fact exist.
      - johnnyanmac 3y ago
        >Either you think it’s a meaningful example, which you manifestly do, or you think that it’s a joke and shouldn’t be considered seriously. comedy is awareness, and awareness is an important first step. But awareness is not hard proof. It's at best a step to start investigations with. So I don't know what you want me to say. I do see it both ways. Maybe there is a point, but nothing I can argue in a real capacity. >Family Guy also jokes about virtually every other conspiracy theory Indeed. but FG can be strangely prohetic at times. Not always (Trump Guy aired in like, 2019, 3-4 years after everyone made every joke in the book. And FG didn't add much there), but said episode aired in 2012. So we're talking nearly a decade before the internet consensus started taking this hard cynical anti-capitalistic approach.
        c0pium 3y ago
        Comedy is awareness of what’s funny. That’s it. It might tangentially be related to what’s true, but that’s at best a happy accident. I take it you weren’t around in the 90s when Chris Rock made this exact joke (it was on Bigger and Blacker), and it killed. People have thought that doctors were after repeat business for as long as there have been doctors. This is a commonly held belief because treating symptoms always* come first. It always comes first not because the pharmacryptoluminati are ghouls after money, but because it’s easier. But that’s not a good punchline.
- ilkke 3y ago
  Very true. Then again, vaccines do now come with DLC booster packs