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Not negating the sentiment that giving a shit helps, but table making is an old business and most of the challenges have been encountered over the centuries. So

by pfix 3y ago

Not negating the sentiment that giving a shit helps, but table making is an old business and most of the challenges have been encountered over the centuries. So result and cost comes down to having an experienced craftsman. And I assume that someone making a living from it for let's say the 10,000 hours can make a table any way you want and be pretty accurate in estimating effort and material expense. Giving a shit makes for a more happy customer, but cutting a board oval shaped is what they do in a workshop for breakfast.

okwhateverdude 3y ago
> Giving a shit makes for a more happy customer, but cutting a board oval shaped is what they do in a workshop for breakfast. Maybe. It could also be that the majority of their customers only want boring non-oval shit most of the time. So the chance to flex a bit on a "non-standard" order and getting to actually demonstrate those skills leads to a much better outcome for everyone including the craftspeople.
vivekd 3y ago
You would think so, but I work in construction and I can confirm that finding a skilled builder is just as hard as finding a skilled coder. Probably more so because coders seem more intent on lifelong learning whereas construction types tend to act like they already know everything. Just look at the top comment, works in construction, electricity is over 100 years old, still had trouble finding people who care. Part of the challenge is that practicing construction is expensive so not everyone gets a chance to do so. Practicing code is easy and inexpensive. There's an accessibility to it that isn't there for building. I code stuff that doesn't work all the time and I don't care, I just start over because I didn't lose much. It's very different when dealing with expensive construction materials.

3 ms·

Not negating the sentiment that giving a shit helps, but table making is an old business and most of the challenges have been encountered over the centuries. So

by pfix 3y ago

okwhateverdude 3y ago
> Giving a shit makes for a more happy customer, but cutting a board oval shaped is what they do in a workshop for breakfast. Maybe. It could also be that the majority of their customers only want boring non-oval shit most of the time. So the chance to flex a bit on a "non-standard" order and getting to actually demonstrate those skills leads to a much better outcome for everyone including the craftspeople.
vivekd 3y ago
You would think so, but I work in construction and I can confirm that finding a skilled builder is just as hard as finding a skilled coder. Probably more so because coders seem more intent on lifelong learning whereas construction types tend to act like they already know everything. Just look at the top comment, works in construction, electricity is over 100 years old, still had trouble finding people who care. Part of the challenge is that practicing construction is expensive so not everyone gets a chance to do so. Practicing code is easy and inexpensive. There's an accessibility to it that isn't there for building. I code stuff that doesn't work all the time and I don't care, I just start over because I didn't lose much. It's very different when dealing with expensive construction materials.