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I would love to hack them to trigger the camera from my smartphone instead than touching the frame. I completely understand why they did it and it's a good thin

by lnrd 3y ago

I would love to hack them to trigger the camera from my smartphone instead than touching the frame. I completely understand why they did it and it's a good thing that the general public can't take pictures with it without it being obvious. But as an hobbyst street photographer I feel it would be an amazing tool to take some candid shots of street moments without attracting attention.

dude187 3y ago
> I completely understand why they did it and it's a good thing that the general public can't take pictures with it without it being obvious. Why is it a good thing? > But as an hobbyst street photographer Aka the general public. Why should the not-you "general public" be restricted, but not you?
- lnrd 3y ago
  > Why is it a good thing? For privacy related matters, as it's clearly designed to make it obvious that someone is taking a picture. It's good because it's an hidden camera targeted at mass market. The likelihood that it could be abused would be high if it would be trivial to do it. > Aka the general public. Why should the not-you "general public" be restricted, but not you? Everybody should be restricted by default. If someone from the general public finds a way to hack it and bypass this restriction, I hope they have good conscience to use it an an ethical way. For what I would like to use it, I believe it would be ethical (as for what's considered ethical among street photographers and concerning street photography laws where I live).
  - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
    > For what I would like to use it, I believe it would be ethical (as for what's considered ethical among street photographers and concerning street photography laws where I live). Define "street photographer" because I am embarrassed to be confused with the likes of you given I'm perfectly satisfied with my Leica M6 and Contax G2.
    - lnrd 3y ago
      A street photographer is someone that takes photos (mostly of people) in the street. I'm also embarrassed to be confused with someone that so easily judges other people and believes that mentioning some kind of equipments tells anything about them. Photography is about photos, if you think the camera you use gives you some special kind of status you are looking at this from a very wrong angle. Imagine a painter believing he's better than other painters because he uses some expensive brand of brushes. Yeah, you are doing the same.
      - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
        You have completely missed the entire point.
  - scott-smith_us 3y ago
    Where I live, at least, if you're in public, there's no expectation of privacy. There's no valid legal objection to someone taking photos or videos. Some exceptions: - Commercial use of (recognizable) photos of people in public is regulated. - Following someone around or getting in their face with a camera is harassment. Of course, your right to take photos or videos stops the minute you step onto private property; the owners are within their rights to disallow it.
    - happytiger 3y ago
      Your confusing legal right with expectation.
      - chupapimunyenyo 3y ago
        [flagged]
  - 14 3y ago
    Really who cares if they can discretely take your photo out in public. You have no expectation of privacy in public and totally legal to take someone’s picture. In fact if they had say a Nikon p1000 they could very clearly take your picture from a mile away. Check out this zoom test and you can see people 3.5 miles away it will blow your mind. From a mile it would be trivial. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQlwKX3LQA&pp=ygUVbmlrb24gcDEwMDAgem9vbSB0ZXN0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQlwKX3LQA&pp=ygUVbmlrb24gcDE...
    - salad-tycoon 3y ago
      That was incredible. It gave me vertigo.
      - 14 3y ago
        What is also incredible is that the camera is only like $1300 USD. So totally obtainable for the average person.
    - lnrd 3y ago
      The expectation of privacy in public changes in each country and with different laws. Where I live in the EU there is an expectation of privacy in public and it's illegal to take a picture of someone that portrays them in a bad or embarrassing way. Given how easily it is already to take pictures and videos discreetly with smartphones and how it's already abused by all kind of people (especially younger generations), I say that for once Meta did a good thing (even though I'm sure they did it only to avoid bad PR given their reputation). Even if something is already bad doesn't mean everything new should be bad as well just because of it.
paul7986 3y ago
Personally im out in public and in the US know i have no rights against people taking videos or photos of me. Present day its clear someone is doing such by holding up their phone now with glasses you may or may not know and I guess that is bad for stalking victims. I dont see any other uses cases why i would care if another person is filming me without noticing unless im out with my girlfriend while my wifes at home (just a scenario that's not me at all). But it's clearly noticeable that these Meta Glasses are filming and or taking pics with the white LED light. I really like them and think they are going to huge.. maybe not this version but we are photography obsessed beings and all the innovation that will occur with these.. this is the next iPhone; smart glasses that is; Apple needs to release their own very soon.

by lnrd 3y ago

dude187 3y ago

> I completely understand why they did it and it's a good thing that the general public can't take pictures with it without it being obvious. Why is it a good thing? > But as an hobbyst street photographer Aka the general public. Why should the not-you "general public" be restricted, but not you?

lnrd 3y ago
> Why is it a good thing? For privacy related matters, as it's clearly designed to make it obvious that someone is taking a picture. It's good because it's an hidden camera targeted at mass market. The likelihood that it could be abused would be high if it would be trivial to do it. > Aka the general public. Why should the not-you "general public" be restricted, but not you? Everybody should be restricted by default. If someone from the general public finds a way to hack it and bypass this restriction, I hope they have good conscience to use it an an ethical way. For what I would like to use it, I believe it would be ethical (as for what's considered ethical among street photographers and concerning street photography laws where I live).
- xkekjrktllss 3y ago
  > For what I would like to use it, I believe it would be ethical (as for what's considered ethical among street photographers and concerning street photography laws where I live). Define "street photographer" because I am embarrassed to be confused with the likes of you given I'm perfectly satisfied with my Leica M6 and Contax G2.
  - lnrd 3y ago
    A street photographer is someone that takes photos (mostly of people) in the street. I'm also embarrassed to be confused with someone that so easily judges other people and believes that mentioning some kind of equipments tells anything about them. Photography is about photos, if you think the camera you use gives you some special kind of status you are looking at this from a very wrong angle. Imagine a painter believing he's better than other painters because he uses some expensive brand of brushes. Yeah, you are doing the same.
    - xkekjrktllss 3y ago
      You have completely missed the entire point.
- scott-smith_us 3y ago
  Where I live, at least, if you're in public, there's no expectation of privacy. There's no valid legal objection to someone taking photos or videos. Some exceptions: - Commercial use of (recognizable) photos of people in public is regulated. - Following someone around or getting in their face with a camera is harassment. Of course, your right to take photos or videos stops the minute you step onto private property; the owners are within their rights to disallow it.
  - happytiger 3y ago
    Your confusing legal right with expectation.
    - chupapimunyenyo 3y ago
      [flagged]
- 14 3y ago
  Really who cares if they can discretely take your photo out in public. You have no expectation of privacy in public and totally legal to take someone’s picture. In fact if they had say a Nikon p1000 they could very clearly take your picture from a mile away. Check out this zoom test and you can see people 3.5 miles away it will blow your mind. From a mile it would be trivial. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQlwKX3LQA&pp=ygUVbmlrb24gcDEwMDAgem9vbSB0ZXN0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQlwKX3LQA&pp=ygUVbmlrb24gcDE...
  - salad-tycoon 3y ago
    That was incredible. It gave me vertigo.
    - 14 3y ago
      What is also incredible is that the camera is only like $1300 USD. So totally obtainable for the average person.
  - lnrd 3y ago
    The expectation of privacy in public changes in each country and with different laws. Where I live in the EU there is an expectation of privacy in public and it's illegal to take a picture of someone that portrays them in a bad or embarrassing way. Given how easily it is already to take pictures and videos discreetly with smartphones and how it's already abused by all kind of people (especially younger generations), I say that for once Meta did a good thing (even though I'm sure they did it only to avoid bad PR given their reputation). Even if something is already bad doesn't mean everything new should be bad as well just because of it.

paul7986 3y ago

Personally im out in public and in the US know i have no rights against people taking videos or photos of me. Present day its clear someone is doing such by holding up their phone now with glasses you may or may not know and I guess that is bad for stalking victims. I dont see any other uses cases why i would care if another person is filming me without noticing unless im out with my girlfriend while my wifes at home (just a scenario that's not me at all). But it's clearly noticeable that these Meta Glasses are filming and or taking pics with the white LED light. I really like them and think they are going to huge.. maybe not this version but we are photography obsessed beings and all the innovation that will occur with these.. this is the next iPhone; smart glasses that is; Apple needs to release their own very soon.