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> Digital nomads (working remotely, almost by definition, and not getting paid that much in the grand scheme of things what are you talking about?? to be a dig

> Digital nomads (working remotely, almost by definition, and not getting paid that much in the grand scheme of things what are you talking about?? to be a digital nomad, you have to spend significantly more to sustain traveling and the added expenses of short term rentals. I could cut my costs in half if I just stayed in one spot for a few months. A typical apartment is going to cost half of an equivalent airbnb and the cost of equipping a kitchen will be offset very quickly from the savings of being able to shop at supermarkets and preparing your food at home.

seydor 3y ago
> you have to spend significantly more to sustain traveling and the added expenses of short term rentals my understanding is that digital nomads pay LESS than they would in their home country by choosing cheap CoL countries
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- cultofmetatron 3y ago
  certain things are cheaper compared to what they were paying at home. but you're still going to be spending more than a local would for the same amenities. Case in point, I can spend $2400 for a basic 1 bedroom apartment in San Francisco or nyc or I can spend $1000 to live in a luxury villa in Bali or a nice furnished apartment in medellin colombia. so yes they are spending less. but they are hardly low income by any stretch.
  - cactusplant7374 3y ago
    I live in Ecuador so I can't really say too much about other countries. However, a luxury rental in Ecuador isn't really a luxury rental at all. There is no noise proofing, random holes in the walls, and the house isn't vented properly. The people that built it just had no idea what they were doing. I don't really think you can compare third world accommodations to first world. It's not comparable. The quality isn't there.
    - cultofmetatron 3y ago
      can't speak for ecuador but the quality of a place you're spending 1400 for in medellin is going to vastly surpass what you get for the price in america. 1400 doesn't get you luxury whatsoever. you're absolutely right that third world accommodations can't compare to first world 1:1 but you'd have to spend significantly more in the united states to live in a place with a comparable quality of life regardless. And this is based on my experiences in mexico, colombia, peru, srilanka, thailand, and indonesia. of course there are some countries where the market inefficiencies mean that even luxury accommodations just aren't going to match up. my experiences ihe the phillpines sounds a lot like what you're describing in ecuador.
somewhereoutth 3y ago
The basic premise of digital nomadism is to earn less then you would otherwise being 'on-prem' (pandemic changes notwithstanding, generally more lucrative careers require at least a certain amount of 'face time'), but have a higher standard of life because you are in a low cost of living region. Things like surfing when you feel like it might be a bot harder otherwise. Agree that flitting about every 3-6 months is not the most efficient way to provide for life's necessities, hence why nomads might struggle in e.g. Zurich, but be fine in e.g. Bali (or Lisbon, before things got crazy).

seydor 3y ago

> you have to spend significantly more to sustain traveling and the added expenses of short term rentals my understanding is that digital nomads pay LESS than they would in their home country by choosing cheap CoL countries

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cultofmetatron 3y ago
certain things are cheaper compared to what they were paying at home. but you're still going to be spending more than a local would for the same amenities. Case in point, I can spend $2400 for a basic 1 bedroom apartment in San Francisco or nyc or I can spend $1000 to live in a luxury villa in Bali or a nice furnished apartment in medellin colombia. so yes they are spending less. but they are hardly low income by any stretch.
- cactusplant7374 3y ago
  I live in Ecuador so I can't really say too much about other countries. However, a luxury rental in Ecuador isn't really a luxury rental at all. There is no noise proofing, random holes in the walls, and the house isn't vented properly. The people that built it just had no idea what they were doing. I don't really think you can compare third world accommodations to first world. It's not comparable. The quality isn't there.
  - cultofmetatron 3y ago
    can't speak for ecuador but the quality of a place you're spending 1400 for in medellin is going to vastly surpass what you get for the price in america. 1400 doesn't get you luxury whatsoever. you're absolutely right that third world accommodations can't compare to first world 1:1 but you'd have to spend significantly more in the united states to live in a place with a comparable quality of life regardless. And this is based on my experiences in mexico, colombia, peru, srilanka, thailand, and indonesia. of course there are some countries where the market inefficiencies mean that even luxury accommodations just aren't going to match up. my experiences ihe the phillpines sounds a lot like what you're describing in ecuador.

somewhereoutth 3y ago

The basic premise of digital nomadism is to earn less then you would otherwise being 'on-prem' (pandemic changes notwithstanding, generally more lucrative careers require at least a certain amount of 'face time'), but have a higher standard of life because you are in a low cost of living region. Things like surfing when you feel like it might be a bot harder otherwise. Agree that flitting about every 3-6 months is not the most efficient way to provide for life's necessities, hence why nomads might struggle in e.g. Zurich, but be fine in e.g. Bali (or Lisbon, before things got crazy).