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New York State Prisons: How to Avoid Rape in Prison – Men's Orientation [video]
- Terr_ 3y ago> In 2015, New York State prisons began showing state-made orientation videos [...] funded through a grant from the federal government under the Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA) I'm torn between "if the state officials need to make this video they've failed at something else" versus "well at least some of the officials think it's important enough for a video".
- n8cpdx 3y agoFor anyone interested in hearing more inmate voices, Ear Hustle is a great podcast. I just discovered it this year and it has made me think about prison from many new perspectives. https://www.earhustlesq.com/ https://www.earhustlesq.com/
- gjsman-1000 3y agoWhat the hell? Preventing prison rape is 100% the responsibility of the guards, and absolutely, emphatically, 0% the responsibility of the inmates. The very existence of this film implies that the inmates have a responsibility to protect themselves while literally being directly under government supervision, which is absurd, inhumane, and blame-shifting. “If you had protected yourself better in prison, despite us literally having armed guards around you, maybe it wouldn’t have happened. So it’s partially your fault, you know.” It also makes the very name “Department of Corrections” a total farce. A purely punitive system with no corrective intent would probably be safer and more humane than this, when we stop pretending there is any rehabilitative value for being there.
- dekken_ 3y agoI think part of the problem might be the population that think people who are sent to prison "deserve" to be raped. Glad to be wrong here tho
- Terr_ 3y ago> What the hell? Preventing prison rape is 100% the responsibility of the guards, and absolutely, emphatically, 0% the responsibility of the inmates. Some of what's described in the video is more like grooming/pressure-tactics, as opposed to outwardly-visible violence. I wouldn't expect guards to be the front-line that subset. Psychologists, maybe.
- pipeline_peak 3y agoAttack an inmate whose trying to rape you and get punished...US prison system is a joke.
- kennethrc 3y agoStep 0: Don't go to prison
- pipeline_peak 3y agoUnless it's in a country like Norway where they treat inmates like humans with potential to better themselves.
- readthenotes1 3y agoWhich, of course, is true of many, but not all, humans
- LightHugger 3y agoYes, but i do not trust any human who thinks they can determine this without trying it first for every individual.
- atleastoptimal 3y agoI know Americans get a justice boner imagining bad criminals getting raped in prison, but is it beneficial for society to put people with a history of violence through living hell then leave them with no job prospects and basically no real opportunities once they are released? Does that set the general welfare of the country up for more prosperity, peace, improvement? Is it really all that surprising all the unique problems the United States has disproportionate to its wealth?
- CPLX 3y agoNo. It is wildly immoral to consider rape an acceptable outcome of any government action. This has been a simple answer to a simple question.
- Analemma_ 3y agoThe prison system in the United States makes much more sense once you realize that its purpose is not to rehabilitate, or even to maintain public order, but to keep certain people (which means exactly what you imagine it means) locked up, cradle-to-grave. It's very good at that. (Remember the classic mantra, "the purpose of a system is what it does.")
- ssalka 3y agoThere is also a lot of dependence on prison labor, recidivism is good for business. Technically, convicted felons are fair game for slavery and indentured servitude - it says it right there in the 13th amendment.
- drcongo 3y agoThe purpose of the American prison system is to make a profit. It only makes sense when viewed through that lens.
- Ancalagon 3y agoNo. The US has a lot of fucked up things about its Justice system that don’t make a lot of sense unless viewed from a lens of pure retribution.
- tomohawk 3y ago[flagged]
- gjsman-1000 3y agoHonestly… you might be safer in solitary confinement, as absurd as that is. Get a good lawyer and make sure you get lots of books, papers, and writing tools.
- omarfarooq 3y agoThere is also a video for women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-2HbmUV10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-2HbmUV10
- riskneutral 3y agoIs that one for you?
- omarfarooq 3y agoNot much of a difference in advice between the two orientation videos.
- riskneutral 3y agoOK well good that you've done your research then.
- omarfarooq 3y agoThanks!
- worik 3y ago> What's the advice for women prisoners, who now have to deal with males being placed in prison with them, many of whom are convicted of sex crimes? Forgive me trying to read your mind, but you sound like you are repeating one of the the gender critical memes about Trans women The tails (true enough, but rare) of Trans women rapists in prisons demonstrate that prison guards are sadists, not any thing about Trans women Trans women are on much more danger in men's prisons than natal women are in danger from trans women Vulnerable men are placed with predatory rapists in prison routinely Prisons are places of institutional abuse, and torture. Guards (screws) are renound for vicous sadism
- fortran77 3y agoThere's no "vouch" button. I want to undo the "flag" This is a very important issue. Most victims of rape in the USA are men, not women. And, sickeningly, many people are pro-rape when it comes to men in prison.
- SteveNuts 3y ago> Most victims of rape in the USA are men, not women Going to need a citation on that
- DLA 3y agoI’m wondering what this is doing on HN? Why?
- mike503 3y agoThey play the Shawshank music. Interesting. :p
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- tshirttime 3y agoKick someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch. Then everything will be all right. -- Office Space, 1999.