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It is weird that this is so high up in the frontpage yet no one in the comments understands what it is. Hopefully someone from the project team sees this and co

by remram 3y ago

It is weird that this is so high up in the frontpage yet no one in the comments understands what it is. Hopefully someone from the project team sees this and comes up with an understandable description.

CharlesW 3y ago
I'll take a shot, based on the first paragraph: WinterJS is a JavaScript Service Workers¹ server. It's for JavaScript runtimes that aren't browsers², so that you can write JavaScript Service Workers that run (fast!) on those non-browser platforms. ¹ Service Workers allow developers to write code that runs in the background, independent of the main appliaction thread. ² Like Cloudflare Workers, Deno Deploy, Vercel, and Wasmer Edge.
- remram 3y ago
  > It's for JavaScript runtimes that aren't browsers Do you mean: "it's *a* JavaScript runtime that isn't a browser"? You are implying that JavaScript runtimes would be the users of WinterJS. That has me even more confused.
  - CharlesW 3y ago
    > Do you mean: "it's *a* JavaScript runtime that isn't a browser"? Good catch! It is indeed a JavaScript runtime for Service Workers. By "for", I was attempting to make the point that it's intended to be deployed to non-browser JavaScript/Wasm runtimes.
    - remram 3y ago
      I am still confused, it's a JavaScript runtime intended to be deployed to JavaScript/Wasm runtimes? Why does a JavaScript runtime need a JavaScript runtime?
      - CharlesW 3y ago
        > I am still confused, it's a JavaScript runtime intended to be deployed to JavaScript/Wasm runtimes? Seemingly. > Why does a JavaScript runtime need a JavaScript runtime? Because if you want to create a Service Worker server for CloudFlare Workers and other JavaScript/Wasm runtimes, that's the only option for doing that AFAIK. FWIW, this isn't a new idea. For example, Figma uses QuickJS (https://bellard.org/quickjs/ https://bellard.org/quickjs/) for their plug-in runtime: https://www.figma.com/blog/an-update-on-plugin-security/ https://www.figma.com/blog/an-update-on-plugin-security/

by remram 3y ago

CharlesW 3y ago

I'll take a shot, based on the first paragraph: WinterJS is a JavaScript Service Workers¹ server. It's for JavaScript runtimes that aren't browsers², so that you can write JavaScript Service Workers that run (fast!) on those non-browser platforms. ¹ Service Workers allow developers to write code that runs in the background, independent of the main appliaction thread. ² Like Cloudflare Workers, Deno Deploy, Vercel, and Wasmer Edge.

remram 3y ago
> It's for JavaScript runtimes that aren't browsers Do you mean: "it's *a* JavaScript runtime that isn't a browser"? You are implying that JavaScript runtimes would be the users of WinterJS. That has me even more confused.
- CharlesW 3y ago
  > Do you mean: "it's *a* JavaScript runtime that isn't a browser"? Good catch! It is indeed a JavaScript runtime for Service Workers. By "for", I was attempting to make the point that it's intended to be deployed to non-browser JavaScript/Wasm runtimes.
  - remram 3y ago
    I am still confused, it's a JavaScript runtime intended to be deployed to JavaScript/Wasm runtimes? Why does a JavaScript runtime need a JavaScript runtime?
    - CharlesW 3y ago
      > I am still confused, it's a JavaScript runtime intended to be deployed to JavaScript/Wasm runtimes? Seemingly. > Why does a JavaScript runtime need a JavaScript runtime? Because if you want to create a Service Worker server for CloudFlare Workers and other JavaScript/Wasm runtimes, that's the only option for doing that AFAIK. FWIW, this isn't a new idea. For example, Figma uses QuickJS (https://bellard.org/quickjs/ https://bellard.org/quickjs/) for their plug-in runtime: https://www.figma.com/blog/an-update-on-plugin-security/ https://www.figma.com/blog/an-update-on-plugin-security/