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Can someone please disentangle the motives behind the deep state actors behind such poor journalistic standards? Or can we attribute all of these to mere lethar

Can someone please disentangle the motives behind the deep state actors behind such poor journalistic standards? Or can we attribute all of these to mere lethargy and a particular ideological momentum/bias?

HideousKojima 3y ago
Lethargy certainly plays some role as well, see the willingness of reporters to republish press releases from companies with little to no editing that are basically just thinky veiled ads or PR puff pieces.
sshine 3y ago
Maybe the Israelis are playing 4D chess.
- passion__desire 3y ago
  4D chess where even supposed enemy are doing exactly what Israel wants them to do. Israel plants fake stories in enemy camp which shows Israel in bad light. The enemy camp is caught with pants down and it's Israel that gets blamed.
totetsu 3y ago
Do you want to unpack it with unzip —-geopolitical or —-realpolitik? And which moral framework shall we init? Consequentialism or Duty-based Ethics or Moral Relativism or Rights-based Ethics. I suggest for your own well-being that you find a way to look at it that doesn’t cause any cognitive dissonance with any beliefs you have about your own goodness.
- passion__desire 3y ago
  Just give me plain facts without multiplying with your weight vector (aka like mixing your saliva as honey bees do to sweeten the deal).
losteric 3y ago
Newspapers are competing with social media's rumor mill. There is intense pressure for speed to capture attention (and ad revenue). Sometimes inaccuracy make it through fast editorial reviews. This isn't the first or last error, and they do occur "in favor" of both sides. This article is a great demonstration. Al Jazeera seems to be the source that rephrased "victims" as "dead". They are typically a trustworthy information source. However, this is a very politically sensitive topic for Al Jazeera - the lesson would have been exercising more editorial review (or at least citing them as the source). Individual incompetence or systemic failures are always more likely than "deep state actors"
meiraleal 3y ago
I would like to know too. For example why there were so many impactful pictures of the destruction and the suffering of Ukrainians, the expulsion of people and now the journalists are spending their time discussing about themselves while thousands are being killed and kicked out of their home.

HideousKojima 3y ago

Lethargy certainly plays some role as well, see the willingness of reporters to republish press releases from companies with little to no editing that are basically just thinky veiled ads or PR puff pieces.

sshine 3y ago

Maybe the Israelis are playing 4D chess.

passion__desire 3y ago
4D chess where even supposed enemy are doing exactly what Israel wants them to do. Israel plants fake stories in enemy camp which shows Israel in bad light. The enemy camp is caught with pants down and it's Israel that gets blamed.

totetsu 3y ago

Do you want to unpack it with unzip —-geopolitical or —-realpolitik? And which moral framework shall we init? Consequentialism or Duty-based Ethics or Moral Relativism or Rights-based Ethics. I suggest for your own well-being that you find a way to look at it that doesn’t cause any cognitive dissonance with any beliefs you have about your own goodness.

passion__desire 3y ago
Just give me plain facts without multiplying with your weight vector (aka like mixing your saliva as honey bees do to sweeten the deal).

losteric 3y ago

Newspapers are competing with social media's rumor mill. There is intense pressure for speed to capture attention (and ad revenue). Sometimes inaccuracy make it through fast editorial reviews. This isn't the first or last error, and they do occur "in favor" of both sides. This article is a great demonstration. Al Jazeera seems to be the source that rephrased "victims" as "dead". They are typically a trustworthy information source. However, this is a very politically sensitive topic for Al Jazeera - the lesson would have been exercising more editorial review (or at least citing them as the source). Individual incompetence or systemic failures are always more likely than "deep state actors"

meiraleal 3y ago

I would like to know too. For example why there were so many impactful pictures of the destruction and the suffering of Ukrainians, the expulsion of people and now the journalists are spending their time discussing about themselves while thousands are being killed and kicked out of their home.