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Samsung and the other manufacturers shot themselves in the foot so hard on this one. When this news trickles down to the average Mexican (ie someone not in the

Samsung and the other manufacturers shot themselves in the foot so hard on this one. When this news trickles down to the average Mexican (ie someone not in the tech industry), the message they will get won't be "don't buy grey market phones, buy official phones", it will be "don't by Samsung, ZTE, etc, they will lock your phone".

codetrotter 3y ago
I see a lot of ZTE phones in the stores here in Cancún. I’ve not seen that brand before coming here. Some of them are pretty cheap even. I thought about buying one so that I could leave my iPhone in the hotel room some days and only carry a cheap phone when I am outside walking in some parts of the city. We are leaving Cancún soon, so now there is not so much point in doing that anyways. But I was thinking that I could do so when we get to Panama in a few days, or the next time I come back to South America. After your comment I am rethinking buying a ZTE phone ever. However, I didn’t hear ZTE mentioned in the video. Is ZTE somehow connected to Samsung?
- windowsrookie 3y ago
  ZTE is not connected to Samsung. There were some budget ZTE phones sold in the USA about 10 years ago. I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    "I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things." The shady things are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Otherwise I heard lots of accusations, but saw no proof of anything.
    - bozhark 3y ago
      It’s a very easy search
      - hutzlibu 3y ago
        To find something concrete against Huawei? Sources please, I was not able to find anything like that.
    - monksy 3y ago
      > are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Lol it takes a lot more than being a Chinese owned company to get banned in the us the majority of the things that we buy is made in China. If it was that reason you wouldn't be able to buy anything in the store anymore
      - hutzlibu 3y ago
        So .. where is the proof for anything? Otherwise the difference is in strategy. A toaster is geopolitical not so important, like communication infrastructure.
        bigger_inside 3y ago
        I get the impression that it's strategy to exclude competition that otherwise can't be beat. You can't beat Huawei cell towers. You increasingly can't beat Huawei phones, which have become much better and cheaper than iPhones. You can make up some story about it being spyware (while we have a mountain of proof that the US has spyware in Western devices...) and exclude them, also hoping that it will limit their advance. Of course, the opposite has happened, CHinese tech comapines have now rapidly gained the ability to sourse in-house (or in-country) what they used to import, leading to a tech jump through sanctions.
        vGPU 3y ago
        The company that just pushed an update that marks Google play services as malware and tries to break android is “better than iPhone”? Get out of here.
  - thisiswhyw2e949 3y ago
    Another reason why those companies are banned is because the US gov hasn't successfully inserted back-doors in the chips so therefore there is no oversight/snooping so they don't get to do business in the US market.
JohnFen 3y ago
> "don't by Samsung, ZTE, etc, they will lock your phone" I may be in the tech industry in the US, but this is absolutely the message I got as well.

codetrotter 3y ago

I see a lot of ZTE phones in the stores here in Cancún. I’ve not seen that brand before coming here. Some of them are pretty cheap even. I thought about buying one so that I could leave my iPhone in the hotel room some days and only carry a cheap phone when I am outside walking in some parts of the city. We are leaving Cancún soon, so now there is not so much point in doing that anyways. But I was thinking that I could do so when we get to Panama in a few days, or the next time I come back to South America. After your comment I am rethinking buying a ZTE phone ever. However, I didn’t hear ZTE mentioned in the video. Is ZTE somehow connected to Samsung?

windowsrookie 3y ago
ZTE is not connected to Samsung. There were some budget ZTE phones sold in the USA about 10 years ago. I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  "I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things." The shady things are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Otherwise I heard lots of accusations, but saw no proof of anything.
  - bozhark 3y ago
    It’s a very easy search
    - hutzlibu 3y ago
      To find something concrete against Huawei? Sources please, I was not able to find anything like that.
  - monksy 3y ago
    > are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Lol it takes a lot more than being a Chinese owned company to get banned in the us the majority of the things that we buy is made in China. If it was that reason you wouldn't be able to buy anything in the store anymore
    - hutzlibu 3y ago
      So .. where is the proof for anything? Otherwise the difference is in strategy. A toaster is geopolitical not so important, like communication infrastructure.
      - bigger_inside 3y ago
        I get the impression that it's strategy to exclude competition that otherwise can't be beat. You can't beat Huawei cell towers. You increasingly can't beat Huawei phones, which have become much better and cheaper than iPhones. You can make up some story about it being spyware (while we have a mountain of proof that the US has spyware in Western devices...) and exclude them, also hoping that it will limit their advance. Of course, the opposite has happened, CHinese tech comapines have now rapidly gained the ability to sourse in-house (or in-country) what they used to import, leading to a tech jump through sanctions.
        vGPU 3y ago
        The company that just pushed an update that marks Google play services as malware and tries to break android is “better than iPhone”? Get out of here.
- thisiswhyw2e949 3y ago
  Another reason why those companies are banned is because the US gov hasn't successfully inserted back-doors in the chips so therefore there is no oversight/snooping so they don't get to do business in the US market.

JohnFen 3y ago

> "don't by Samsung, ZTE, etc, they will lock your phone" I may be in the tech industry in the US, but this is absolutely the message I got as well.