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What are better options out there (for a Node developer) if you're not using Next.js? Going to rails isn't really an option I guess

chasd00 3y ago
I’ve been learning more of these stacks and found out about remix here in the nextjs release 14 thread. Remix seems pretty ok so far but I don’t have super strong feelings on nextjs either, it seems to work for me. I’m functioning as a system liaison at work for a team on nextjs which was my first exposure to it. That got my interest so I’ve been exploring front end frameworks lately. I would give remix a shot.
- ushakov 3y ago
  I've tried Remix and Astro, but I found it was too hard to even get started. SvelteKit looked interesting, but I didn't like the syntax. Nuxt with Tailwind has been my current go-to for last couple years, so seems like it might not be changing any time soon
jstummbillig 3y ago
Are you being ironic? If not: Rails is most certainly an option, if building web stuff is your goal. I think it's lame how bad the documentation around it is 40 years in, which I can kind of forgive because of how well thought out and complete pretty much everything is, once you figure it out. That is not to say that there aren't very sensible JS options – for example AdonisJS is well long running, constructed and feature complete TS backend framework, that has little traction – only that the community seems to value excitement and Apple marketing techniques to the point, where even their darlings core concepts are so absurdly unstable, that it feels insane to start any reasonably sized project with it.
- ushakov 3y ago
  The problem with Rails is that I don't know Ruby. It's a different ecosystem than the one I'm used to (Node). I'm also not aware whether Ruby comes with built-in type-safety, which is a requirement for me. Another requirement besides type-safety is JavaScript on the frontend and TailwindCSS for styling
kurupt88 3y ago
Curious why you'd think rails isn't an option?

chasd00 3y ago

I’ve been learning more of these stacks and found out about remix here in the nextjs release 14 thread. Remix seems pretty ok so far but I don’t have super strong feelings on nextjs either, it seems to work for me. I’m functioning as a system liaison at work for a team on nextjs which was my first exposure to it. That got my interest so I’ve been exploring front end frameworks lately. I would give remix a shot.

ushakov 3y ago
I've tried Remix and Astro, but I found it was too hard to even get started. SvelteKit looked interesting, but I didn't like the syntax. Nuxt with Tailwind has been my current go-to for last couple years, so seems like it might not be changing any time soon

jstummbillig 3y ago

Are you being ironic? If not: Rails is most certainly an option, if building web stuff is your goal. I think it's lame how bad the documentation around it is 40 years in, which I can kind of forgive because of how well thought out and complete pretty much everything is, once you figure it out. That is not to say that there aren't very sensible JS options – for example AdonisJS is well long running, constructed and feature complete TS backend framework, that has little traction – only that the community seems to value excitement and Apple marketing techniques to the point, where even their darlings core concepts are so absurdly unstable, that it feels insane to start any reasonably sized project with it.

ushakov 3y ago
The problem with Rails is that I don't know Ruby. It's a different ecosystem than the one I'm used to (Node). I'm also not aware whether Ruby comes with built-in type-safety, which is a requirement for me. Another requirement besides type-safety is JavaScript on the frontend and TailwindCSS for styling

kurupt88 3y ago

Curious why you'd think rails isn't an option?