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I can see the "human shield" angle, though I don't personally agree that's what's happening. Either way, there's a choice there on Israel's part, to continue u
by tyingq 3y ago
I can see the "human shield" angle, though I don't personally agree that's what's happening. Either way, there's a choice there on Israel's part, to continue using bombs when they know the rough ratio of how many civilians, women, children, they are killing for each Hamas member they think they are killing.
That ratio is highly unusual compared to other conflicts.
Scale it down to something you can relate to. Someone did something unthinkable to your family, killing many of them. How many women and children, uninvolved in that, are you willing to kill to get to the original perpetrator? Is it justified if the original perpetrator is using them as shields?
Isn't killing innocents because of atrocities to their people the same thing that started this most recent conflict?
Edit:
Compare the number of bombs the US dropped on entire countries over a year's time: https://progressive.org/latest/usa-bombs-drop-benjamin-davies-220112/ https://progressive.org/latest/usa-bombs-drop-benjamin-davie...
You'll see that 6000 bombs in a week (Israel's numbers), into a ~10km x 40km densly populated area, is highly unusual.
- ngcazz 3y agoHuman shield is a euphemism for target.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoA tweak on your question: Someone did something unthinkable to your family, killing many of them. They have the stated intent of continuing to kill as many others as possible. How many women and children, uninvolved in that, are you willing to kill to get to the original perpetrator? If you go after the perpetrator, people are going to die. But if you don't, (different) people are going to die.
- tyingq 3y agoFair, but what ratio are you comfortable with? How many innocents per Hamas member is justified?
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoI"m not comfortable even with the question. One way to look at it is as a stock versus a flow. How many people are you willing to kill today to prevent Hamas from killing X people a year? What's your time horizon? But another way to look at it is: Families of civilians killed have some motivation to become Hamas fighters. How many Hamas fighters are you willing to create in order to kill some Hamas fighters? It's a horrible situation. Until Hamas and Israel are willing to forgive each other for past killings, the killings will continue, on both sides.
- jacquesm 3y agoI would move to a more peaceful place long before I'd let that happen.