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The numbers from the health ministry are historically accurate, and even often cited by the US State Department in the past[1]. Or, if you trust Israel's numbe
by tyingq 3y ago
The numbers from the health ministry are historically accurate, and even often cited by the US State Department in the past[1].
Or, if you trust Israel's numbers, they are pretty open that they dropped, for example, 6000 bombs on Gaza in a single week. Very conservatively, a typical JDAM bomb kills everything in a 30-40 meter radius and more deaths out to 10x that distance. That's just bombs, Israel is also using artillery, mortars, drones, small arms, etc. And then there's whatever deaths a water+fuel+food+medicine blockade might cause. Gaza's population density is high and well known, as is the percentage of women and children. Try some emotionless math that tells you thousands of women and children aren't dead...it just doesn't work.
[1] https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/israel-west-bank-and-gaza/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-...
- Thristle 3y agoThe precentage of woman and children in the population is known but that is only relevant if you assume Israel is bombing randomly Some civilians evict themselves from these areas (north and central gaza mainly) Some of the bombed areas would have less civilians in them even before the war since they are used by hamas for war (but obviously not 0) Israel publishes the high ranking Hamas members that are confirmed dead but don't report civ/"grunts" Not that I am saying we should take the health ministry word as fact (they lied before, Al-Ahli Hospital is just an example) but I don't think their numbers would be orders of magnitude off
- tyingq 3y agoMentioned in another comment, but 6000 bombs went into that small area, within a week. Mostly JDAMS that have a really large kill radius. Look at the number of bombs dropped in an entire year, into an entire country, by the US: https://progressive.org/latest/usa-bombs-drop-benjamin-davies-220112/ https://progressive.org/latest/usa-bombs-drop-benjamin-davie... That gives an idea of the scale of the bombing in Gaza...it's HUGE. There's almost certainly an extremely high number of civilian deaths, without having to look at the Gaza Health Ministry numbers at all.
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- tyingq 3y agoOne doesn't justify the other. > due to antisemitism ugh.