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As opposed to what? Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothin

by kaba0 3y ago

As opposed to what? Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobile platforms absolutely beat the shit out of any desktop computer on accessibility count, hands down, any people with some kind of disability will tell you as much. There are negatives, but also, all around mobile OSs are a newer generation of OSs, that fixes many problems of their forefathers. To not call them computing devices is just unreasonable.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
> Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? That's why everyone is pushing for development in containers..
- kaba0 3y ago
  Containers are not sandboxes at all!
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Why not? If I run Firefox in a container, I would have to explicitly map in my entire real home directory for it to be able to read SSH keys (for instance).
Dah00n 3y ago
>Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Either you are using it wrong (su) or you are describing the exact same behaviour as Windows and MAC. Is it perfect? No. Is it worse than any other mainstream product? No. >Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobile platforms absolutely beat the shit out of any desktop computer on accessibility count, hands down, any people with some kind of disability will tell you as much. Really? A thread on HN a few weeks (months?) back about this did absolutely not show any such consensus. Many loved Apple products for accessibility, but even more commented that Windows was by far the best product available, far ahead of Mac and iPhones.
- kaba0 3y ago
  Windows and Mac at least have some rudimentary notion of security. Unfortunately this is simply no priority for most linux distros.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Why don't you describe the security model(s) that Windows and Mac defend against and desktop Linux doesn't?

by kaba0 3y ago

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago

> Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? That's why everyone is pushing for development in containers..

kaba0 3y ago
Containers are not sandboxes at all!
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Why not? If I run Firefox in a container, I would have to explicitly map in my entire real home directory for it to be able to read SSH keys (for instance).

Dah00n 3y ago

>Your Linux desktop that will readily allow sending your browser cache, ssh keys, family photos to anyone with a simple ‘npm install’, nothing at all preventing it? Either you are using it wrong (su) or you are describing the exact same behaviour as Windows and MAC. Is it perfect? No. Is it worse than any other mainstream product? No. >Also, if you call that GUI inaccessible, you write from a place of privilege: mobile platforms absolutely beat the shit out of any desktop computer on accessibility count, hands down, any people with some kind of disability will tell you as much. Really? A thread on HN a few weeks (months?) back about this did absolutely not show any such consensus. Many loved Apple products for accessibility, but even more commented that Windows was by far the best product available, far ahead of Mac and iPhones.

kaba0 3y ago
Windows and Mac at least have some rudimentary notion of security. Unfortunately this is simply no priority for most linux distros.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Why don't you describe the security model(s) that Windows and Mac defend against and desktop Linux doesn't?