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To get anyone from outside of Android ecosystem up to speed, blog author has always had controversial opinions. He's been trying to prove to the community that

To get anyone from outside of Android ecosystem up to speed, blog author has always had controversial opinions. He's been trying to prove to the community that new Compose library is for what worse than decade old imperative UI system on Android for the past couple of years.

pjmlp 3y ago
I agree with several of his opinions, many in the Android community cargo cult opinions from influencers in the Android team, sorry Developer Advocates, without any thoughts of how real they happen to be.
carstenhag 3y ago
(I am aware of the author). The opinion not mentioned is not flawed. Some basic things were definitely missing when Compose was made 1.0. Now 2 years later, there are still features open that some consider basic. My opinion as an android dev: he's definitely very knowledgeable, but you should also hear other opinions. It's not a writer you should listen to blindly.
- csydas 3y ago
  will take advantage of your knowledge for a question and also a comment to your post. No writer should be trusted blindly but i don’t thjnk you meant that literally ;) just for others to see. all information should have some verification even from trusted sources. on the author though, can you share a bit about the subject and the author’s participation in android dev? i’ve never touched android anything dev wise so i’m not even sure if the topic being discussed is a new and unexplored territory, explored but still evolving, or if it’s something the community has settled on with plenty of data to back their conclusion. similarly im not sure if the author is really skilled enough to have controversial opinions or if it’s more they’re alright but excitable. how would you position the two points just from your point of view? i get the impression the author of the article is controversial and also opinionated i. “unusual” ways — for me, such persons are interesting to hear from even if a lot of their ideas are non-sense or fanciful. “out-there” ideas often are just out there for no reason, but sometimes there’s gold in such ideas, or good thoughts and starting points for actual golden ones. wiuod you personally at least listen to this author just in case there’s some gold or are they very much so just in their own world?
- DotaFan 3y ago
  Been using Compose for 3 years now professionally, while OP hasn't. I never had serious issues that other UI libraries do not have. OP arguments tend to be blatant and unreasonable, and I've been following him for last ~2 years on twitter.
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- thecupisblue 3y ago
  I'm not sure I'd go with knowledgable. While I agree with his opinions about cargo culting in the Android development world, many of his opinions lack substance and can be distilled to: "X sucks! it's hard to learn! don't use X! ... unless you pass my course". It's the classic "controversy > audience > course" funnel most of these twitter famous developers have. Hate to be this guy, but If you look at his code, you'll find that this person wouldn't pass an average interview for a mid-level developer. From basics like naming and function scoping to weird architecture choices and abstractions. His "best practices" includes MVC that doesn't make sense as MVC. That is who is teaching people and selling courses. It's sad that a lot of new developers get hooked onto what these people are saying as an avoidance tactic - "I don't understand X properly yet, the twitter man says X is complicated, ergo X = bad". Then they decline to learn best practices which can negatively impact their career - i.e. someone is going to use this as a "don't use coroutines" excuse, leading to them not using and understanding coroutines. This will mean that person will not learn about async/await, structured concurrency, how it works under the hood. How will this person integrate with a team that uses the modern best practices? Even if they manage to pass the interviews, they'll be a lot behind the rest of the team in understanding some great computational concepts. Unfortunately, people like these don't seem to care that they are having negative impact on their audience, as long as they get to sell their course.
MrDresden 3y ago
I've been in the Android developer ecosystem professionally since '10 and I have no clue who this guy is. Yet another Twitter/Reddit personality selling sketchy courses to the clueless crowd?
- DotaFan 3y ago
  You are right, he is selling courses, but his opinions are contraversal primarily cause he just has to be different. Nothing to do with course selling if you ask me.

pjmlp 3y ago

I agree with several of his opinions, many in the Android community cargo cult opinions from influencers in the Android team, sorry Developer Advocates, without any thoughts of how real they happen to be.

carstenhag 3y ago

(I am aware of the author). The opinion not mentioned is not flawed. Some basic things were definitely missing when Compose was made 1.0. Now 2 years later, there are still features open that some consider basic. My opinion as an android dev: he's definitely very knowledgeable, but you should also hear other opinions. It's not a writer you should listen to blindly.

csydas 3y ago
will take advantage of your knowledge for a question and also a comment to your post. No writer should be trusted blindly but i don’t thjnk you meant that literally ;) just for others to see. all information should have some verification even from trusted sources. on the author though, can you share a bit about the subject and the author’s participation in android dev? i’ve never touched android anything dev wise so i’m not even sure if the topic being discussed is a new and unexplored territory, explored but still evolving, or if it’s something the community has settled on with plenty of data to back their conclusion. similarly im not sure if the author is really skilled enough to have controversial opinions or if it’s more they’re alright but excitable. how would you position the two points just from your point of view? i get the impression the author of the article is controversial and also opinionated i. “unusual” ways — for me, such persons are interesting to hear from even if a lot of their ideas are non-sense or fanciful. “out-there” ideas often are just out there for no reason, but sometimes there’s gold in such ideas, or good thoughts and starting points for actual golden ones. wiuod you personally at least listen to this author just in case there’s some gold or are they very much so just in their own world?
DotaFan 3y ago
Been using Compose for 3 years now professionally, while OP hasn't. I never had serious issues that other UI libraries do not have. OP arguments tend to be blatant and unreasonable, and I've been following him for last ~2 years on twitter.
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thecupisblue 3y ago
I'm not sure I'd go with knowledgable. While I agree with his opinions about cargo culting in the Android development world, many of his opinions lack substance and can be distilled to: "X sucks! it's hard to learn! don't use X! ... unless you pass my course". It's the classic "controversy > audience > course" funnel most of these twitter famous developers have. Hate to be this guy, but If you look at his code, you'll find that this person wouldn't pass an average interview for a mid-level developer. From basics like naming and function scoping to weird architecture choices and abstractions. His "best practices" includes MVC that doesn't make sense as MVC. That is who is teaching people and selling courses. It's sad that a lot of new developers get hooked onto what these people are saying as an avoidance tactic - "I don't understand X properly yet, the twitter man says X is complicated, ergo X = bad". Then they decline to learn best practices which can negatively impact their career - i.e. someone is going to use this as a "don't use coroutines" excuse, leading to them not using and understanding coroutines. This will mean that person will not learn about async/await, structured concurrency, how it works under the hood. How will this person integrate with a team that uses the modern best practices? Even if they manage to pass the interviews, they'll be a lot behind the rest of the team in understanding some great computational concepts. Unfortunately, people like these don't seem to care that they are having negative impact on their audience, as long as they get to sell their course.

MrDresden 3y ago

I've been in the Android developer ecosystem professionally since '10 and I have no clue who this guy is. Yet another Twitter/Reddit personality selling sketchy courses to the clueless crowd?

DotaFan 3y ago
You are right, he is selling courses, but his opinions are contraversal primarily cause he just has to be different. Nothing to do with course selling if you ask me.