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What’s the best alternative?

by bomewish 3y ago

dopidopHN 3y ago
Crap. For my personal use case. I’m back to btc. ( I just want to transfer money abroad )
- herbst 3y ago
  Why would you use anything other than crypto then?
dmoy 3y ago
Depending on the amounts you're talking about, and the mechanism: Remitley, xoom, revolut, ofx, Atlantic (?). Lot of others. Just a straight wire transfer, but depending on your bank you might get wrecked in exchange rate. Interactive Brokers has extremely good exchange rates and fees. But, it requires you to have accounts on both ends, so it doesn't work the same way. For the top comment in this tree though (individual moving between countries), I'd lean towards IBKR since it sounds like they control accounts on both ends.
- AYBABTME 3y ago
  IBKR can also be finicky when it comes to what they allow on their platform. They seem to want people to do stock brokerage, and not use their service for other things despite offering a whole lot of convenient features that suggest they want you to use them. I used them a lot for automated transfers, paying bills and keeping cash and they weren't happy about it.
  - evadne 3y ago
    I second the recommendation for IBKR which quotes FX rates at market compared to Wise. When the sum is higher, the differences can be drastic. As long as you run an active trading account with them it should be fine for occasional cash movements.
    - lampington 3y ago
      Agreed, if it's not your primary purpose for having the account then it should be fine. I did a bunch of FX through them not long after opening mine, and they sent me a polite email telling me that I shouldn't do that, which was fair enough. Much better than the "freeze account first, warn later" attitude that many other financial companies seem to have. Now that I've been investing with them for a while, they don't seem to mind.
  - dmoy 3y ago
    Yup this is true. They don't want to be doing just that, and they'll get pissy if you're doing only that. Though, it's also a freaking excellent broker, so you could just... use it for your normal brokerage purposes too. They've also got a CMA with rates as good as basically anything except maybe Fidelity (which sorta cheats by sweeping from a mmf), so you can theoretically just use it for your normal banking as well. I don't actually maintain a IBKR account myself, but if I were to consolidate somewhere, it'd probably be either there of Fidelity. If I had to do forex more regularly, IBKR would win for me, hands down.
- mtmail 3y ago
  > Just a straight wire transfer, but depending on your bank you might get wrecked in exchange rate. We sent 50 Euro to Bangladesh because wise.com doesn't support that country yet. Our bank charged 49 Euro in fees.

What’s the best alternative?

dopidopHN 3y ago

Crap. For my personal use case. I’m back to btc. ( I just want to transfer money abroad )

herbst 3y ago
Why would you use anything other than crypto then?

dmoy 3y ago

Depending on the amounts you're talking about, and the mechanism: Remitley, xoom, revolut, ofx, Atlantic (?). Lot of others. Just a straight wire transfer, but depending on your bank you might get wrecked in exchange rate. Interactive Brokers has extremely good exchange rates and fees. But, it requires you to have accounts on both ends, so it doesn't work the same way. For the top comment in this tree though (individual moving between countries), I'd lean towards IBKR since it sounds like they control accounts on both ends.

AYBABTME 3y ago
IBKR can also be finicky when it comes to what they allow on their platform. They seem to want people to do stock brokerage, and not use their service for other things despite offering a whole lot of convenient features that suggest they want you to use them. I used them a lot for automated transfers, paying bills and keeping cash and they weren't happy about it.
- evadne 3y ago
  I second the recommendation for IBKR which quotes FX rates at market compared to Wise. When the sum is higher, the differences can be drastic. As long as you run an active trading account with them it should be fine for occasional cash movements.
  - lampington 3y ago
    Agreed, if it's not your primary purpose for having the account then it should be fine. I did a bunch of FX through them not long after opening mine, and they sent me a polite email telling me that I shouldn't do that, which was fair enough. Much better than the "freeze account first, warn later" attitude that many other financial companies seem to have. Now that I've been investing with them for a while, they don't seem to mind.
- dmoy 3y ago
  Yup this is true. They don't want to be doing just that, and they'll get pissy if you're doing only that. Though, it's also a freaking excellent broker, so you could just... use it for your normal brokerage purposes too. They've also got a CMA with rates as good as basically anything except maybe Fidelity (which sorta cheats by sweeping from a mmf), so you can theoretically just use it for your normal banking as well. I don't actually maintain a IBKR account myself, but if I were to consolidate somewhere, it'd probably be either there of Fidelity. If I had to do forex more regularly, IBKR would win for me, hands down.
mtmail 3y ago
> Just a straight wire transfer, but depending on your bank you might get wrecked in exchange rate. We sent 50 Euro to Bangladesh because wise.com doesn't support that country yet. Our bank charged 49 Euro in fees.