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Mark Zuckerberg Is Coming for Sam Altman and OpenAI

16 points by CharlesW 3y ago

prvc 3y ago
Paid article. Curious what the takeaway is from the paywalled portion.
chrishare 3y ago
I'm not a fan of the personification here, but certainly someone emerging from a cave after 5 years would think Meta and OpenAI's attitude towards open-source should be totally swapped.
kfichter 3y ago
> The risks to Meta were manifold. People spending time speaking to ChatGPT might ignore their friends on WhatsApp. ChatGPT replacing human interaction/friendship seems like a stretch (at least for the moment). Seems much more likely that Meta just realizes that these chat apps are going to replace traditional search engines and there's a huge opportunity to unseat Google.
- baxtr 3y ago
  Are you sure? This is trending right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38046786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38046786
- hnfong 3y ago
  This is happening. I mean, I saw a post on reddit the other day describing the exact thing. Some poor person decided to limit their social interactions to AI because they were frustrated by society (and claimed they didn't have enough money to hang out with real friends). Not sure at what scale, agree that this is unlikely to significantly affect Meta's bottom line, but the threat is seriously there.
amusingimpala75 3y ago
What are some good alternatives for actually FOSS LLMs? The leading LLMs would seem to be ChatGPT-4 and LLama 2, but OpenAI isn't open, nor is a license that restricts usage even just larger limits free, which Llama is licensed under (and people are buying Facebook's lies that it is actually open-source).
pprotas 3y ago
Meta’s aspiration might be to take on OpenAI, but so far they have not released a single consumer product that can compete with ChatGPT’s success. This article paints a positive picture for Meta. Does it really match reality?
jjeaff 3y ago
Very strange juxtaposition to have a company owned by a non-profit, calling its product "Open AI" that is definitely not open and not free competing with a for-profit mega corp's product that is both free and open source.
leeeeeepw 3y ago
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16 points by CharlesW 3y ago

prvc 3y ago

Paid article. Curious what the takeaway is from the paywalled portion.

I'm not a fan of the personification here, but certainly someone emerging from a cave after 5 years would think Meta and OpenAI's attitude towards open-source should be totally swapped.

kfichter 3y ago

> The risks to Meta were manifold. People spending time speaking to ChatGPT might ignore their friends on WhatsApp. ChatGPT replacing human interaction/friendship seems like a stretch (at least for the moment). Seems much more likely that Meta just realizes that these chat apps are going to replace traditional search engines and there's a huge opportunity to unseat Google.

baxtr 3y ago
Are you sure? This is trending right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38046786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38046786
hnfong 3y ago
This is happening. I mean, I saw a post on reddit the other day describing the exact thing. Some poor person decided to limit their social interactions to AI because they were frustrated by society (and claimed they didn't have enough money to hang out with real friends). Not sure at what scale, agree that this is unlikely to significantly affect Meta's bottom line, but the threat is seriously there.

amusingimpala75 3y ago

What are some good alternatives for actually FOSS LLMs? The leading LLMs would seem to be ChatGPT-4 and LLama 2, but OpenAI isn't open, nor is a license that restricts usage even just larger limits free, which Llama is licensed under (and people are buying Facebook's lies that it is actually open-source).

pprotas 3y ago

Meta’s aspiration might be to take on OpenAI, but so far they have not released a single consumer product that can compete with ChatGPT’s success. This article paints a positive picture for Meta. Does it really match reality?

jjeaff 3y ago

Very strange juxtaposition to have a company owned by a non-profit, calling its product "Open AI" that is definitely not open and not free competing with a for-profit mega corp's product that is both free and open source.

leeeeeepw 3y ago

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