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What do they plan to do? connect an oil based generator to the charging station?

cosban 3y ago
Doubtful. It makes sense for oil companies to begin (though realistically continue) investing in alternative energies if they want to survive beyond this century due to the continued decreased cost of alternative fuel/energy sources.
qdog 3y ago
Says they are installing them at their gas stations. Probably a lot of money to be made from getting people to stop to charge and buy sodas etc.
- Tempest1981 3y ago
  Yep, imagine an EV version of Buc-ees, replacing 100 gas pumps with superchargers... keeping the Walmart-sized snack-shop: https://www.mapquest.com/travel/destinations/travel-guide/tips/buc-ees.htm https://www.mapquest.com/travel/destinations/travel-guide/ti... (see pic, the scale is massive) Oh, already happening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU07U1kxDg0&t=57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU07U1kxDg0&t=57s (57 sec)
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    Yeah, buc-ees makes for a great charging stop. Just wish the walk from the chargers wasn't quite so long.
    - Tempest1981 3y ago
      Surprised they don't have a Disneyland-like parking lot tram.
      - _ea1k 3y ago
        It'd be useful for the one in Leeds, AL. The walk is huge and the temps are usually terrible.
        keep_reading 3y ago
        Ok, this is the furthest I've even seen for a charger at a Bucees. It's ~450ft. About a 90 second walk.
    - keep_reading 3y ago
      This is so American. It's like 200ft from the chargers to the store entrance...
- wredue 3y ago
  They’re actually nearly useless at non-rural gas stations. There’s no money to be made. Far and away most people on an ev will not stop at a charge station anywhere within a couple hundred kilometers of their home.
  - hamandcheese 3y ago
    There's a lot of people who don't live in homes where they can install a charger.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  Yep, they also recently purchased TravelCenters of America, which was a mismanaged chain of large gas stations with a lot of potential. This combination makes a lot of sense, though they should work on revitalizing some of the brands involved.
webninja 3y ago
Do they use an oil based generator to power the lights in the convenience store or the payment processors?
whatever1 3y ago
They will get the ev credits and they will be able to offset the production of fossil fuel.
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botanical 3y ago
> oil Shell and others are calling it "deep water energy". This is good PR, nothing more. They aren't going to base their revenue on charging cars; and they get carbon credits to look good. If you search "BP global warming", the first 7 of 9 results are linked to BP.com about how they're taking action on climate change. In February of this year, "BP dials back climate pledge amid soaring oil profits. The British oil giant wants to decrease its carbon emissions by between 20 and 30 percent by 2030. It previously aimed for a 35 to 40%." : https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/07/bp-climate-emissions-oil-profits/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/07/bp-climat...
- charles_f 3y ago
  > The British oil giant wants to decrease its carbon emissions by between 20 and 30 percent by 2030. It previously aimed for a 35 to 40%. The only way they can significantly decrease "their" carbon emissions is by selling less of their product, which would be by lowering their lobbying and switching to another source of revenue. I could say this is good news, not that I care about bp or tesla chargers, but anything that allows them to pivot to another revenue stream is less petrol they'll sell to be burnt. But truth be told there is no reason why it would be subtractive when it can be additive. Any pledge they make is meaningless. All will be burnt until there's none, because it doesn't cost remotely as much to produce than it brings to sell.
martyvis 3y ago
BP were actually doing a lot of solar cell research from the early 1970s

Doubtful. It makes sense for oil companies to begin (though realistically continue) investing in alternative energies if they want to survive beyond this century due to the continued decreased cost of alternative fuel/energy sources.

qdog 3y ago

Says they are installing them at their gas stations. Probably a lot of money to be made from getting people to stop to charge and buy sodas etc.

Tempest1981 3y ago
Yep, imagine an EV version of Buc-ees, replacing 100 gas pumps with superchargers... keeping the Walmart-sized snack-shop: https://www.mapquest.com/travel/destinations/travel-guide/tips/buc-ees.htm https://www.mapquest.com/travel/destinations/travel-guide/ti... (see pic, the scale is massive) Oh, already happening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU07U1kxDg0&t=57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU07U1kxDg0&t=57s (57 sec)
- _ea1k 3y ago
  Yeah, buc-ees makes for a great charging stop. Just wish the walk from the chargers wasn't quite so long.
  - Tempest1981 3y ago
    Surprised they don't have a Disneyland-like parking lot tram.
    - _ea1k 3y ago
      It'd be useful for the one in Leeds, AL. The walk is huge and the temps are usually terrible.
      - keep_reading 3y ago
        Ok, this is the furthest I've even seen for a charger at a Bucees. It's ~450ft. About a 90 second walk.
  - keep_reading 3y ago
    This is so American. It's like 200ft from the chargers to the store entrance...
wredue 3y ago
They’re actually nearly useless at non-rural gas stations. There’s no money to be made. Far and away most people on an ev will not stop at a charge station anywhere within a couple hundred kilometers of their home.
- hamandcheese 3y ago
  There's a lot of people who don't live in homes where they can install a charger.
_ea1k 3y ago
Yep, they also recently purchased TravelCenters of America, which was a mismanaged chain of large gas stations with a lot of potential. This combination makes a lot of sense, though they should work on revitalizing some of the brands involved.

webninja 3y ago

Do they use an oil based generator to power the lights in the convenience store or the payment processors?

whatever1 3y ago

They will get the ev credits and they will be able to offset the production of fossil fuel.

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botanical 3y ago

> oil Shell and others are calling it "deep water energy". This is good PR, nothing more. They aren't going to base their revenue on charging cars; and they get carbon credits to look good. If you search "BP global warming", the first 7 of 9 results are linked to BP.com about how they're taking action on climate change. In February of this year, "BP dials back climate pledge amid soaring oil profits. The British oil giant wants to decrease its carbon emissions by between 20 and 30 percent by 2030. It previously aimed for a 35 to 40%." : https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/07/bp-climate-emissions-oil-profits/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/07/bp-climat...

charles_f 3y ago
> The British oil giant wants to decrease its carbon emissions by between 20 and 30 percent by 2030. It previously aimed for a 35 to 40%. The only way they can significantly decrease "their" carbon emissions is by selling less of their product, which would be by lowering their lobbying and switching to another source of revenue. I could say this is good news, not that I care about bp or tesla chargers, but anything that allows them to pivot to another revenue stream is less petrol they'll sell to be burnt. But truth be told there is no reason why it would be subtractive when it can be additive. Any pledge they make is meaningless. All will be burnt until there's none, because it doesn't cost remotely as much to produce than it brings to sell.

martyvis 3y ago

BP were actually doing a lot of solar cell research from the early 1970s