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They've been giving evacuation warnings for many days with both leaflets and the cell phone network: > Residents in Gaza reported that Israeli planes rained re

They've been giving evacuation warnings for many days with both leaflets and the cell phone network: > Residents in Gaza reported that Israeli planes rained red leaflets on neighborhoods Saturday, urging residents to evacuate. Those with cell phones also received the message digitally, according to social media reports. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/21/idf-prepares-for-ground-invasion-00122881 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/21/idf-prepares-for-gr...

solarpunk 3y ago
they're reduced to dropping leaflets at night?
avtar 3y ago
They've been giving evacuation warnings and then proceeding to bomb the very areas where people have been fleeing to... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/why-is-israel-attacking-south-gaza-after-telling-people-go-there-2023-10-25/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/why-is-israel-atta...
- petertodd 3y ago
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  - xerxesaa 3y ago
    And yet this did not save Wael Al-Dahdouh's family. He followed every order and evacuated his family. His wife, kids, and grandchild were wiped out in an airstrike in a refugee camp no less. He handled it with immense maturity and dedication. He's back to work reporting on the war.
    - petertodd 3y ago
      > And yet this did not save Wael Al-Dahdouh's family. As I have repeatedly said, in a war of this nature large numbers of Gazan civilians will inevitably die. As long as Israel eliminates Hamas, this is unavoidable. If Israel fails to eliminate Hamas, large numbers of Israeli's will be killed by Hamas in the future. Between those two options, obviously Israel is going to choose the option where Israli's don't get slaughtered again in the future. As they should. Hamas is evil and needs to be destroyed. Which means, killing or capturing the tens of thousands of Hamas soldiers and other members. Hamas soldiers alone are about 30,000 to 40,000 people. Those men need to be killed or captured.
      - jemmyw 3y ago
        They would need to wipe out the entire population of Gaza then, because otherwise all their actions are going to do (doing) is create the next generation of Hamas.
        mcpackieh 3y ago
        It's so obvious, it's hard to believe this isn't the intent.
      - matsemann 3y ago
        > As I have repeatedly said, in a war of this nature large numbers of Gazan civilians will inevitably die Your comment was "So?" one post up. It's clear how much you value the lives of innocent humans. I know I'm breaking HN rules by saying this, but it's needed: you're a piece of trash for the way you support these killings.
  - avtar 3y ago
    What I and others in this thread are trying to point out is that the Israeli government's actions might be not as righteous as you're trying to portray. Is this just an attempt to wipe out Hamas or potentially also annexation of territory? https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/israeli-think-tank-lays-out-a-blueprint-for-the-complete-ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza/ https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/israeli-think-tank-lays-out-a... Holding a view that one side is villainous while the other is merely seeking justice seems fairly reductive.

solarpunk 3y ago

they're reduced to dropping leaflets at night?

avtar 3y ago

They've been giving evacuation warnings and then proceeding to bomb the very areas where people have been fleeing to... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/why-is-israel-attacking-south-gaza-after-telling-people-go-there-2023-10-25/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/why-is-israel-atta...

petertodd 3y ago
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- xerxesaa 3y ago
  And yet this did not save Wael Al-Dahdouh's family. He followed every order and evacuated his family. His wife, kids, and grandchild were wiped out in an airstrike in a refugee camp no less. He handled it with immense maturity and dedication. He's back to work reporting on the war.
  - petertodd 3y ago
    > And yet this did not save Wael Al-Dahdouh's family. As I have repeatedly said, in a war of this nature large numbers of Gazan civilians will inevitably die. As long as Israel eliminates Hamas, this is unavoidable. If Israel fails to eliminate Hamas, large numbers of Israeli's will be killed by Hamas in the future. Between those two options, obviously Israel is going to choose the option where Israli's don't get slaughtered again in the future. As they should. Hamas is evil and needs to be destroyed. Which means, killing or capturing the tens of thousands of Hamas soldiers and other members. Hamas soldiers alone are about 30,000 to 40,000 people. Those men need to be killed or captured.
    - jemmyw 3y ago
      They would need to wipe out the entire population of Gaza then, because otherwise all their actions are going to do (doing) is create the next generation of Hamas.
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        It's so obvious, it's hard to believe this isn't the intent.
    - matsemann 3y ago
      > As I have repeatedly said, in a war of this nature large numbers of Gazan civilians will inevitably die Your comment was "So?" one post up. It's clear how much you value the lives of innocent humans. I know I'm breaking HN rules by saying this, but it's needed: you're a piece of trash for the way you support these killings.
- avtar 3y ago
  What I and others in this thread are trying to point out is that the Israeli government's actions might be not as righteous as you're trying to portray. Is this just an attempt to wipe out Hamas or potentially also annexation of territory? https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/israeli-think-tank-lays-out-a-blueprint-for-the-complete-ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza/ https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/israeli-think-tank-lays-out-a... Holding a view that one side is villainous while the other is merely seeking justice seems fairly reductive.