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You’re at best conflating “soldiers” with “soldiers and civilians” in your comment, and at worst implying that this atrocities that affect far more than 8% of o

You’re at best conflating “soldiers” with “soldiers and civilians” in your comment, and at worst implying that this atrocities that affect far more than 8% of one demographic of Gaza’s population is justified collateral damage. That’s completely ignoring the other completely faulty aspects of your comparison, e.g. which populations are being displaced?

ipaddr 3y ago
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- bhouston 3y ago
  ipaddr wrote: > Those who support Hamas aren't innocent. That is the language of genocide.
  - nec4b 3y ago
    Why? Do you believe those that supported Nazis were not responsible for atrocities of Nazism?
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    - megous 3y ago
      Of course they were. That's why Soviets raped so many wifes of Nazis (and non-nazis). It's called justice. /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_... Seriously, why are you defending violence against women? Or did you not read the parent post in its entirety?
      - nec4b 3y ago
        I had Nuremberg trials in mind. I don't like what you imagine as justice though.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  The last time I saw paraphrased language like this it was the Jews on the receiving end. Do us all a favor and stop with this kind of language, this is exactly what keeps the wheel of violence turning. For every terrorist you kill you get three new ones. For every house that gets demolished and a family displaced you get another bunch, for every child that gets shot there are bereaved people left behind some of whom will now have nothing to lose. It's really annoying - especially given that even in Israel - and amongst Jews abroad - there are many people who are sick and tired both of the hawks and of the terrorists who both couldn't give a rats ass about collateral damage as long as their side 'wins' whatever that means for them. Rabin had it right and he died for it, at the hands of the fanatics. God forbid that someone would be reasonable for a change.
  - ipaddr 3y ago
    War ends when one side is destroyed or both sides agree to peace. When both sides see the devil and one side is stronger than the other side the other side many not exist for much longer.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      That only works if 'both sides' are organized nation states. Besides the obvious geopolitical complications involved here 'might makes right' isn't going to work in the case of what is at its root a religious dispute over land. That takes any kind of rationality off the table and will just result in interminable attacks and counterattacks or in genocide and especially Israel will not want to be seen in that position. It would negate the whole reason for its existence.

ipaddr 3y ago

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bhouston 3y ago
ipaddr wrote: > Those who support Hamas aren't innocent. That is the language of genocide.
- nec4b 3y ago
  Why? Do you believe those that supported Nazis were not responsible for atrocities of Nazism?
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  - megous 3y ago
    Of course they were. That's why Soviets raped so many wifes of Nazis (and non-nazis). It's called justice. /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_... Seriously, why are you defending violence against women? Or did you not read the parent post in its entirety?
    - nec4b 3y ago
      I had Nuremberg trials in mind. I don't like what you imagine as justice though.
jacquesm 3y ago
The last time I saw paraphrased language like this it was the Jews on the receiving end. Do us all a favor and stop with this kind of language, this is exactly what keeps the wheel of violence turning. For every terrorist you kill you get three new ones. For every house that gets demolished and a family displaced you get another bunch, for every child that gets shot there are bereaved people left behind some of whom will now have nothing to lose. It's really annoying - especially given that even in Israel - and amongst Jews abroad - there are many people who are sick and tired both of the hawks and of the terrorists who both couldn't give a rats ass about collateral damage as long as their side 'wins' whatever that means for them. Rabin had it right and he died for it, at the hands of the fanatics. God forbid that someone would be reasonable for a change.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  War ends when one side is destroyed or both sides agree to peace. When both sides see the devil and one side is stronger than the other side the other side many not exist for much longer.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    That only works if 'both sides' are organized nation states. Besides the obvious geopolitical complications involved here 'might makes right' isn't going to work in the case of what is at its root a religious dispute over land. That takes any kind of rationality off the table and will just result in interminable attacks and counterattacks or in genocide and especially Israel will not want to be seen in that position. It would negate the whole reason for its existence.