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PG I'm not defending google but there's a tremendous amount of fraud in this business. Any solution has to account for the fraud factor. From my experience nei
by larrys 15y ago
PG I'm not defending google but there's a tremendous amount of fraud in this business. Any solution has to account for the fraud factor.
From my experience neither Yahoo or Google has the correct algorithms to prevent fraud. I know this because we have parked domains and I can tell when various parked domains get spidered and all the sudden we get a check in the mail for the revenue that bots must have created.
The reason google/yahoo don't do a better job is that the fraud clicks earn them money. But when they are alerted (by the advertiser) they come down hard and fast (as show by the OP)
- adsenseclient 15y agoPG is absolutely right re: treating publishers as servers: this is NOT just about fraud, please take a look at this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3803981 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3803981
- larrys 15y agoYour link goes to ycombinator.org not .com Requires a separate login to that to vote or reply. At first I thought you were potentially man in the middle. While the whois says the domain is owned by "Paul Graham" at the appropriate address I don't separately even know if this information is correct as anyone can put anything in whois owner info.
- MiguelHudnandez 15y agoFor what it's worth, the two names resolve to the same IP address for me. My recommendation for developers who might have this issue on their own site is to set up a redirection script at all the non-canonical names. The redirection script should redirect to the canonical name and include the full path and query string if they exist. I also take that opportunity to log the traffic so I can report on which names are generating traffic. That can help when you are deciding wether to allow names to lapse.
- larrys 15y agoThe issue for me is that it required me to login again with a password because a web browser treats domain.com and domain.org as two different sites. So it didn't have my password stored. That is what brought it to my attention. And it's obviously the correct behavior from a security perspective regardless of whether it redirects to the same ip or not (you are correct though).
- ahlatimer 15y agoThey (news.ycombinator.com/org) resolve to the same IP. It's safe to assume it's not a MITM.
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- themonk 15y agoIs there any industry guideline how to crawl ads to avoid the click fraud. There must be some header that crawler can pass telling it is not a human.