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How many years until cops use drones and very fast robotic dogs to chase and apprehend people? This is not meant as some kind of criticism, I believe that this
by qwertox 3y ago
How many years until cops use drones and very fast robotic dogs to chase and apprehend people?
This is not meant as some kind of criticism, I believe that this is a fact which will become true regardless of us approving or disapproving it.
I mean from a technical standpoint, where the on-board AI and tracking abilities as well as the physical ones will be so capable that they will be able to replace humans chasing others, with the ability of evading thrown stones or other objects, possibly using tasers or fine but strong nets to prevent the chased person from continuing to flee.
A bit less than 10 years? Then how much longer until this is no longer a novelty?
- dmoy 3y agoDrones? Already, today. Robotic dogs to apprehend people? I dunno.
- pixl97 3y agoNot only robotic dogs apprehending people, robotic dogs with posh English accents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzOBZUFzTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzOBZUFzTw
- wooshboats 3y agohttps://youtu.be/Bmy-Cr2bkZ0 https://youtu.be/Bmy-Cr2bkZ0 they almost do that at the end.
- dmoy 3y agoFor very slow motion stuff right now, yea. Not chasing people down though. At least not yet...
- colechristensen 3y agoThis would be great for car chases. Police cars in high speed chases too often lead to collateral damage and lots of people get away when police disengage as a matter of policy. A drone follower would be a great improvement.
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- pj_mukh 3y agoControversial Opinion: This is a good idea. There is zero need to make these Black Mirror lethal but tracking and apprehending is a scary job and Cops are human (there are also bad cops). Automating that process seems like Step 1 to getting out of our current strategy of "Well cops are bad, so we can't enforce any laws". Well-intentioned ACLU action and Public backlash have made these very hard to roll out, but long term, this may be the only the solution (along with wholesale long-term welfare overhaul of course)
- bad_alloc 3y ago> There is zero need to make these Black Mirror lethal Nope, loot ak Ukraine. And military surplus can easily end up with the police.
- pj_mukh 3y agoI'm assuming of course we have some political control here. Just a walking robot was shamed out of existence [1]. So the public has some control over what is and isn't acceptable. We don't need to accept lethal robots, but wholesale saying "no robotic equipment at all" will simply leave us in the logjam we have now between bad cops and zero enforcement. [1]:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/nypd-robot-dog-backlash.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/nypd-robot-dog-b...
- greedo 3y agoBased on the behavior of many police departments in the US, I wouldn't put as much faith in your assumption of political control. From the "Blue Flu" to how many departments behaved both during the BLM protests and during COVID, police departments wield an amazing amount of control over their own TTP and who they seek to control.
- pj_mukh 3y agoRight but that behavior is driven (either earnestly or not) by safety concerns for the cops. Lets remove that concern, no excuses left.
- huytersd 3y agoWould not work very well in an urban environment where you could duck into the front of a business and go out the back way. Maybe drones + ability to remotely lock the doors of any building in the city. Or a drone swarm with built in maps of the layouts of all the buildings in the city so if someone goes into a building, they automatically split up and start watching all the exits.
- zeusk 3y agoSay no more! There's a YC funded startup on it already https://paladindrones.io https://paladindrones.io
- jacquesm 3y agoEthics issues...
- jamestimmins 3y agoAs robotic dogs that apprehend suspects play a major role in Fahrenheit 451, this is one of those things that should really make us pause and reflect.
- gnarlouse 3y agoHow many years until a domestic terrorism attack operated by a drone pilot followed by us never finding the person
- dragonwriter 3y agoBetter chance of that happening by the end of 2024 than of Twitter being a dominant financial platform by the same time, to cross the streams of current HN threads.
- jacquesm 3y agoThat's a win for 'fusion of unrelated subjects' I think.
- tshaddox 3y agoDo drones make it significantly easier to attack without being caught than, say, timed explosives or even firearms?
- simonh 3y agoYou don’t need to know where the target is going to be exactly in advance, and you don't have to personally be in firearm range or line of sight.
- mortenjorck 3y agoApprehend, not in the foreseeable future. Chase, however, I'm surprised we haven't been seeing for at least a few years. Here in Chicago, following a high-profile bystander death resulting from a police pursuit, the department adopted a new pursuit policy that effectively bans vehicular pursuits in a majority of situations. While many contend that this policy goes too far, it's indisputable that vehicular pursuits are dangerous. The potential for tracking, for example, a robbery suspect from the air (with a considerably lower bar than scrambling one of the city's two police helicopters) via drone seems like an obvious win for safety, both in reducing dangerous pursuits and apprehending dangerous offenders.
- ranting-moth 3y ago>How many years until cops use drones and very fast robotic dogs to chase and apprehend people? I'd go farther than that. I'd wager that within 10 years, someone will have been shot by a mostly autonomous drone operated by a police unit somewhere. An operator will have had a approve the shot. We are probably 20-30 years from fully autonomous takedown of terrorists.
- lostlogin 3y agoBlack Mirror: Metalhead. It’s one of the best episodes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalhead_(Black_Mirror) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalhead_(Black_Mirror)