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Playing with this a bit more, and it is very cool! One thing I like is that it provides the source text, so you can verify whether the summary is accurate. Ot
by cout 3y ago
Playing with this a bit more, and it is very cool!
One thing I like is that it provides the source text, so you can verify whether the summary is accurate. Other engines just give you an answer, leaving you to verify accuracy on your own as a separate step. But I wonder which translation it uses?
Wondering if it has a bias toward any particular theology, I tried some controversial terms.
The program gave an accurate defense of the five points of calvinism, but when I asked about dispensationalism, the verses it gave were less relevant than I hoped. On the other hand, it did give relevant results for Arminianism. On predestination, however, it missed Romans 9 but instead returned passages from Ecclesiastes and Galatians 4.
Concerning Roman Catholic theology, it did not seem to know what the immaculate conception is, and instead wandered aimlessly. It did know what purgatory is, but I expected to see 1 Cor. 13 and instead it returned passages from Job and Ecclesiastes.
Concerning Orthodox theology, it did not seem to know what the word filioque means. This isn't a word found in the bible, but neither is calvinism nor trinity, which it did know. It also knew iconostasis, though I am not qualified to judge whether it explained it accurately.
I was impressed that it knows what a gift economy is; I don't think this is a term I would expect to see in a typical commentary.
It did not feel comfortable commenting on facebook, but when I asked about the internet, the summary explained that we should only be judged by God and not our friends, and also warned against adulturous women. It was more positive about an information superhighway, returning results about sharing knowledge and being honest.
A bug: if I click Summarize before the search is complete, I get a different response than if I wait for the runner to stop running and then click Summarize.
- j-b 3y agoInteresting insights, currently using the WEB translation, and plan to expand further. Thanks for the bug report!
- Zancarius 3y agoThe Berean Standard Bible[1] provides their Bible and its translation tables under the public domain[2]. It's a pretty readable translation, too, but I don't remember off-hand what formats they provide. I believe they also have an interlinear (partial, NT only). There is also a version based on the Majority Text[3]. Not sure if this is something that might be of interest to you, but I've been using this occasionally in Logos and rather enjoy it. [1] https://berean.bible/ https://berean.bible/ [2] https://berean.bible/licensing.htm https://berean.bible/licensing.htm [3] https://majoritybible.com/ https://majoritybible.com/
- thrtythreeforty 3y agoI have wanted a searchable literal and interlinear text for a long time. I may spend some time converting this to .yes for my phone. Thanks for the link. Can you speak to the credentials or reliability of the Berean project? Even something as "straightforward" (not minimizing the work!) as a literal translation can have lots of nuance in certain passages.
- Zancarius 3y agoDr Grant Osborne is on their NT translation board, and his commentary series are well regarded (I've been going through Revelation: Verse-by-Verse, and it was recommended to me by my pastor). I can't remember some of the others on their board[1], but as far as I know it seems that they've selected from fairly well-known scholars. The project itself is funded by Bible Hub. I don't know if that will affect your view of the text or not, but their objective was to have a fully transparent translation accepting feedback from academics, pastors, and lay-readers for each revision. As such, I've found it quite readable and it seems to fall somewhere between ESV and NET in terms of readability (not as terse as ESV, not as verbose as NET). Have you considered Logos? It's not exactly cheap, but the search tools are extremely powerful. They have a Hebrew-English interlinear for both the MT and the DSS and you can quite easily search on the MSS words, the lemma, or roots throughout the entire text. The mobile version isn't quite as feature-full, however, but I use it with some regularity in church and during Wednesday night classes (currently covering Revelation). [1] https://berean.bible/committee.htm https://berean.bible/committee.htm
- thrtythreeforty 3y agoLogos is unfortunately out of my budget, but it looks really nice and I've considered it several times. Thanks so much for the additional info. I'll do some additional research on the project, but that sounds encouraging. I hope the literal translation ends up as a sort of modernized ASV, which sticks very closely to the original Greek sentence structure but the verbiage is a little dated sometimes.
- cout 3y agoWEB is a solid translation. Good choice.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> Concerning Roman Catholic theology, it did not seem to know what the immaculate conception is, and instead wandered aimlessly. Catholics don't believe sola scriptura, which is a fairly recent Protestant doctrine, instead viewing scripture and sacred tradition as pillars of faith, and the Immaculate Conception is a dogma originating in sacred tradition, not scipture. So its not surprising that a textual search of the Bible (even if using a text that Catholics would use, which I don't think this does) would whiff hard on this.