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I really like Kagi for a lot of search results and used it for a month, but when looking for local results, I always had to revert to Google. For example, look

by radlad 3y ago

I really like Kagi for a lot of search results and used it for a month, but when looking for local results, I always had to revert to Google. For example, looking for local stores and businesses: usually, they just don't come up at all. I had forgotten how I used to have to tack the city I am in on to each query back in the day with Google. Even then though, the lack of reviews, mapping, etc. makes it almost useless for what I really need. I'd love to see Kagi improve in this area, and I'd happily pay again.

jjice 3y ago
Agreed. I've also been using Kagi for the last month and love it, but local results are just not as good. They provide some Yelp locations but usually not as well as Google does. I wouldn't be surprised if this is improved over time. It seems like Kagi is a small team with the founder replying to me emails/bug ticket directly! Very effective people over there. On a side note, Yelp is an awful platform. They show recommended/similar locations down your throat so hard on mobile that it's hard to learn about the actual location you're looking at.
Freedom2 3y ago
Thanks for the information. Last week when HN was praising Kagi, almost to the point of saying it had no faults whatsoever, I wondered if they were just blinding themselves to obvious flaws in the application. Disappointing, from this community that is usually so critical.
- cubefox 3y ago
  Some people might not search a lot for local stuff. Or it doesn't hurt them to use two search engines for different purposes.
  - baggachipz 3y ago
    This is me. Google Maps for local stuff, Kagi for everything else. It's not ideal but it's the best we have right now. Don't even bother mentioning Yelp.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      And what about ChatGPT?
      - baggachipz 3y ago
        I've used it some, but in the free version the results are outdated for a lot of things. I just don't think to use it instead of search, guess I'm old fashioned that way.
- radlad 3y ago
  In fairness to both Kagi and other commnters, it works great for the searches I make all day while working on my desktop. I would go so far as to say it is significantly better than other attempts at replacing Google (e.g. Neeva.) It just doesn't work so well for the searches I make after work when making plans or on my phone while out and about.
lostlogin 3y ago
> when looking for local results, I always had to revert to Google I use Kagi for local too, as Google hijack the top 10 results for other crap that I don’t want and am not interested in. It’s taken me a long time to start using the top hit in Kagi, as google has trained me to ignore top hits.
carlosjobim 3y ago
Google local results are mostly dependent on Google maps, where the business owners themselves provide all the information. Kagi can never get those millions of businesses to provide them with that data. Even Apple have a hard time with that. So the option for Kagi is to try to hook in to Google maps. Because business owners anno 2023 refuse to make decent websites for their businesses.

by radlad 3y ago

jjice 3y ago

Agreed. I've also been using Kagi for the last month and love it, but local results are just not as good. They provide some Yelp locations but usually not as well as Google does. I wouldn't be surprised if this is improved over time. It seems like Kagi is a small team with the founder replying to me emails/bug ticket directly! Very effective people over there. On a side note, Yelp is an awful platform. They show recommended/similar locations down your throat so hard on mobile that it's hard to learn about the actual location you're looking at.

Freedom2 3y ago

Thanks for the information. Last week when HN was praising Kagi, almost to the point of saying it had no faults whatsoever, I wondered if they were just blinding themselves to obvious flaws in the application. Disappointing, from this community that is usually so critical.

cubefox 3y ago
Some people might not search a lot for local stuff. Or it doesn't hurt them to use two search engines for different purposes.
- baggachipz 3y ago
  This is me. Google Maps for local stuff, Kagi for everything else. It's not ideal but it's the best we have right now. Don't even bother mentioning Yelp.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    And what about ChatGPT?
    - baggachipz 3y ago
      I've used it some, but in the free version the results are outdated for a lot of things. I just don't think to use it instead of search, guess I'm old fashioned that way.
radlad 3y ago
In fairness to both Kagi and other commnters, it works great for the searches I make all day while working on my desktop. I would go so far as to say it is significantly better than other attempts at replacing Google (e.g. Neeva.) It just doesn't work so well for the searches I make after work when making plans or on my phone while out and about.

lostlogin 3y ago

> when looking for local results, I always had to revert to Google I use Kagi for local too, as Google hijack the top 10 results for other crap that I don’t want and am not interested in. It’s taken me a long time to start using the top hit in Kagi, as google has trained me to ignore top hits.

carlosjobim 3y ago

Google local results are mostly dependent on Google maps, where the business owners themselves provide all the information. Kagi can never get those millions of businesses to provide them with that data. Even Apple have a hard time with that. So the option for Kagi is to try to hook in to Google maps. Because business owners anno 2023 refuse to make decent websites for their businesses.