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> I think more people would be willing to accept a meth clinic in their neighborhood if they didn't pay property taxes from now on and could afford private secu

> I think more people would be willing to accept a meth clinic in their neighborhood if they didn't pay property taxes from now on and could afford private security What? Property taxes are maybe $5000 per year for a typical property, maybe more maybe less shrug. How do you hire a full-time (24/7) armed guard for your house for $5000 per year? Even if you allocated that $5000 toward some group in your community paying for an armed guard... ask as many people as you know today the following question: What scenario do you prefer: 1) Pay $5000 per year and not have a meth clinic near your house. 2) Pay $5000 per year and have a meth clinic and someone with an AK47 guarding your neighborhood. Other than that, I agree with the general idea - however I would reject the government paying for that - because ultimately that means a new tax. It would have to be the "entity" that wants to fuck up the area.

Pet_Ant 3y ago
> What? Property taxes are maybe $5000 per year for a typical property, maybe more maybe less shrug. How do you hire a full-time (24/7) armed guard for your house for $5000 per year? You hire it for the neighborhood jointly. I mean 12 neighbors cover a single guard. That means a neighborhood can have several of them patrolling. And you don’t need 1/12. So you pocket the savings. So you get maybe $4,000 cash per year and one guard per street. Obviously not personal security detail.
- meheleventyone 3y ago
  Doesn’t that sort of ignore the need for shifts and guards to have holidays, sick leave and so on. For whatever minimum staffing you think you need you need to multiply it by 3-4x. Not to mention the logistics involved in terms of vehicles, work space and so on. And the sheer dystopian vibes to this calculus is crazy.
  - coding123 3y ago
    It's not some dystopian future - this is the YIMBY movement. It's not about housing. You think some rich person struggling to find land for his next prison that doubles his wealth cares about your kids playing in the street? No he's going to donate to YIMBY to double his wealth.
- coding123 3y ago
  Yeah that glosses over the entire point - you prefer having an armed gaurd and a meth clinic across the street where your kids play than just paying property taxes?

Pet_Ant 3y ago

> What? Property taxes are maybe $5000 per year for a typical property, maybe more maybe less shrug. How do you hire a full-time (24/7) armed guard for your house for $5000 per year? You hire it for the neighborhood jointly. I mean 12 neighbors cover a single guard. That means a neighborhood can have several of them patrolling. And you don’t need 1/12. So you pocket the savings. So you get maybe $4,000 cash per year and one guard per street. Obviously not personal security detail.

meheleventyone 3y ago
Doesn’t that sort of ignore the need for shifts and guards to have holidays, sick leave and so on. For whatever minimum staffing you think you need you need to multiply it by 3-4x. Not to mention the logistics involved in terms of vehicles, work space and so on. And the sheer dystopian vibes to this calculus is crazy.
- coding123 3y ago
  It's not some dystopian future - this is the YIMBY movement. It's not about housing. You think some rich person struggling to find land for his next prison that doubles his wealth cares about your kids playing in the street? No he's going to donate to YIMBY to double his wealth.
coding123 3y ago
Yeah that glosses over the entire point - you prefer having an armed gaurd and a meth clinic across the street where your kids play than just paying property taxes?