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Wow, that is bonkers. Could you maybe get them actually to try sending you an email to that address and show them that, yes, you do receive the damnned thing?

Habgdnv 3y ago
I initially wrote a much longer comment, detailing multiple instances like these from just the past few months. But then I just deleted it because it will be too long. As for them - They will just tell "huh, he is hacker and can send fake emails from fake non-existing platforms". It's like me attempting to demonstrate my possession of a private key for an SSL certificate to someone who lacks even a basic understanding of what a "browser" is, or who has never encountered terms like HTTP or HTTPS. Another thought, more closely aligned with the original poster's point: if someone pushes to transition everything to a digital format, he must first understand what that means. For instance, if you're looking to gather email addresses, take the time to familiarize yourself with relevant RFCs. Understand that the local part of the email is determined by the user, not you. So, if I decide my email address should be "john with space here-doe!@#$%^&"@example.international, and I've set up my server to accept messages directed to this address, and given that IANA recognizes ".international" as a valid TLD, then it's a legitimate email. For clarity's sake, my actual email is of the format first.last@example.international, without any "non-standard" characters. And as a connection to the OP - they are pushing for debit/credit cards society and when they make sure that all your money are with them and you don't have a single cent on you - they just cut you because you're just 0.001% and an edge case. But that is their point of view. From your point of view its like this: At home if my card stops working i can go to my bank the very next day and get it sorted. I can walk for 15 minutes and be at my mom's place where I can eat everything for free. The next day you are in another country where you don't know anybody and if your card stops there, they just leave you to the wolves. For them you're the edge case - 0.001%. For you - this is all your food, shelter, health. It feels a bit unfair.
- mrbadguy 3y ago
  Yeah I agree, the push towards digitalization combined with a lack of care for "edge cases" is kind of scary. People might say, oh, it only affects 0.3% but, in the US, that's roughly a million people so hardly trivial. The problem is that it is difficult to make truly flexible software and no-one has the financial incentive to do so. Increasingly, people don't even want to invest in humans at the edge to try and work around issues. Companies like google just ignore you.
Habgdnv 3y ago
And just in case - I am not that weirdo that just refuses google. No - I have google account, youtube premium, etc. But my google account is with my own email and not with gmail.com. I have microsoft, twitter/X, facebook, amazon, everything that you probably have. All sites. And I was there 10 years ago when .international was introduced. I remember few sites that don't accept it in the first year or two. Then everything went smooth. And 10years later someone is creating brand new site and limit the tld in the email to 3 characters :) The last company that I remember that was having problems was Activision/Blizzard. And when I wrote to them and pointed out that they are not potato but tech company and should watch for such things it took them about 1 month to fix all their sites/account management/billing.
PeterisP 3y ago
I'm inclined to think that this is caused by prejudice against nonstandard TLDs which many, many services have; that it would work if the OP had their custom .com or .org domain.

Habgdnv 3y ago

I initially wrote a much longer comment, detailing multiple instances like these from just the past few months. But then I just deleted it because it will be too long. As for them - They will just tell "huh, he is hacker and can send fake emails from fake non-existing platforms". It's like me attempting to demonstrate my possession of a private key for an SSL certificate to someone who lacks even a basic understanding of what a "browser" is, or who has never encountered terms like HTTP or HTTPS. Another thought, more closely aligned with the original poster's point: if someone pushes to transition everything to a digital format, he must first understand what that means. For instance, if you're looking to gather email addresses, take the time to familiarize yourself with relevant RFCs. Understand that the local part of the email is determined by the user, not you. So, if I decide my email address should be "john with space here-doe!@#$%^&"@example.international, and I've set up my server to accept messages directed to this address, and given that IANA recognizes ".international" as a valid TLD, then it's a legitimate email. For clarity's sake, my actual email is of the format first.last@example.international, without any "non-standard" characters. And as a connection to the OP - they are pushing for debit/credit cards society and when they make sure that all your money are with them and you don't have a single cent on you - they just cut you because you're just 0.001% and an edge case. But that is their point of view. From your point of view its like this: At home if my card stops working i can go to my bank the very next day and get it sorted. I can walk for 15 minutes and be at my mom's place where I can eat everything for free. The next day you are in another country where you don't know anybody and if your card stops there, they just leave you to the wolves. For them you're the edge case - 0.001%. For you - this is all your food, shelter, health. It feels a bit unfair.

mrbadguy 3y ago
Yeah I agree, the push towards digitalization combined with a lack of care for "edge cases" is kind of scary. People might say, oh, it only affects 0.3% but, in the US, that's roughly a million people so hardly trivial. The problem is that it is difficult to make truly flexible software and no-one has the financial incentive to do so. Increasingly, people don't even want to invest in humans at the edge to try and work around issues. Companies like google just ignore you.

Habgdnv 3y ago

And just in case - I am not that weirdo that just refuses google. No - I have google account, youtube premium, etc. But my google account is with my own email and not with gmail.com. I have microsoft, twitter/X, facebook, amazon, everything that you probably have. All sites. And I was there 10 years ago when .international was introduced. I remember few sites that don't accept it in the first year or two. Then everything went smooth. And 10years later someone is creating brand new site and limit the tld in the email to 3 characters :) The last company that I remember that was having problems was Activision/Blizzard. And when I wrote to them and pointed out that they are not potato but tech company and should watch for such things it took them about 1 month to fix all their sites/account management/billing.

PeterisP 3y ago

I'm inclined to think that this is caused by prejudice against nonstandard TLDs which many, many services have; that it would work if the OP had their custom .com or .org domain.