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There's also distribution problems. Jet fuel aside, most airports only have one tank for servicing avgas. Once they switch over to non-leaded, now they have a c

There's also distribution problems. Jet fuel aside, most airports only have one tank for servicing avgas. Once they switch over to non-leaded, now they have a customer base that may not be able to buy from them. Those revenues go to fund the airport operation. There's going to have to be a concerted effort to fix type certificates and fuel distribution all at the same time. A slow effort is going to be more problematic.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> Once they switch over to non-leaded, now they have a customer base that may not be able to buy from them G100L is approved for all piston aircraft [1]. The only reason someone couldn't buy from them would be obstinacy. [1] https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2022/september/01/closer-to-an-unleaded-future https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2022/september/...
- saalweachter 3y ago
  I wonder what the Venn diagram of single-engine plane owners and people who don't like being told what to do looks like. [I am seriously curious; on the one hand, owning and flying a small plane is an expensive, privileged hobby which tends towards the lower-upper-class demographic, but it also requires complying with a shit-ton of government regulation and direction already.]
  - hatsunearu 3y ago
    I'm in the car hobby and considering how many people just think stuff like noise regulation and air quality measures is just nonsense solely on the basis of "I do what I want, bitch", I'm not hopeful.
    - froggit 3y ago
      Ever live somewhere without emissions testing? Welding straight pipes in place of cats becomes a point of pride.
      - tomatocracy 3y ago
        Probably also helps that the materials in catalytic converters can be pretty valuable on the scrap market.
      - donbatman 3y ago
        It's fantastic! I can get ethanol free gas too!
      - bsagdiyev 3y ago
        That doesn't seem to be the norm here and we're pretty lax on emissions testing requirements. It was a bigger issue in California when I was in the car scene there than anywhere else i've lived. And their emissions are stricter than most places (if not all) in the US.
- labcomputer 3y ago
  Not so fast. G100UL can be approved for all piston engine aircraft. There is not a blanket approval. You still have to go here (https://stc.g100ul.com/aircraft/ https://stc.g100ul.com/aircraft/) and buy paperwork that makes your individual airframe and engine legal. What the FAA approved was for GAMI to sell that paperwork for all piston aircraft.
  - dicknuckle 3y ago
    for a whole $250? that's a drop in the bucket for anything GA related.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> Once they switch over to non-leaded, now they have a customer base that may not be able to buy from them G100L is approved for all piston aircraft [1]. The only reason someone couldn't buy from them would be obstinacy. [1] https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2022/september/01/closer-to-an-unleaded-future https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2022/september/...

saalweachter 3y ago
I wonder what the Venn diagram of single-engine plane owners and people who don't like being told what to do looks like. [I am seriously curious; on the one hand, owning and flying a small plane is an expensive, privileged hobby which tends towards the lower-upper-class demographic, but it also requires complying with a shit-ton of government regulation and direction already.]
- hatsunearu 3y ago
  I'm in the car hobby and considering how many people just think stuff like noise regulation and air quality measures is just nonsense solely on the basis of "I do what I want, bitch", I'm not hopeful.
  - froggit 3y ago
    Ever live somewhere without emissions testing? Welding straight pipes in place of cats becomes a point of pride.
    - tomatocracy 3y ago
      Probably also helps that the materials in catalytic converters can be pretty valuable on the scrap market.
    - donbatman 3y ago
      It's fantastic! I can get ethanol free gas too!
    - bsagdiyev 3y ago
      That doesn't seem to be the norm here and we're pretty lax on emissions testing requirements. It was a bigger issue in California when I was in the car scene there than anywhere else i've lived. And their emissions are stricter than most places (if not all) in the US.
labcomputer 3y ago
Not so fast. G100UL can be approved for all piston engine aircraft. There is not a blanket approval. You still have to go here (https://stc.g100ul.com/aircraft/ https://stc.g100ul.com/aircraft/) and buy paperwork that makes your individual airframe and engine legal. What the FAA approved was for GAMI to sell that paperwork for all piston aircraft.
- dicknuckle 3y ago
  for a whole $250? that's a drop in the bucket for anything GA related.