3 ms·

Unless a lot of money is paid out in campaign contributions, I suspect you're right. I'm worried about a time when the _statistical_ safety of AI driving is be

Unless a lot of money is paid out in campaign contributions, I suspect you're right. I'm worried about a time when the _statistical_ safety of AI driving is better than humans across the board, but there are horrifying correlations between AI induced accidents, like "Children on tricycles are not well recognized" or "slight fog in Seattle induces 150 car pileup". Or, AI causes worse accidents less frequently than humans. Whereas humans have lots more fender benders and minor injuries to older adults. Not saying this is true, but it's a scenario I think about a lot.

brandonagr2 3y ago
A lot more minor injuries? You are aware that over 100 people are killed in cars every single day in the US alone right?
- colonelpopcorn 3y ago
  TBH, that stat seems low.
- jvanderbot 3y ago
  I think you missed the part where I'm not saying this is current reality, just saying it's something I worry about. Continuing your example just for exposition / hypothetical, if those are 100 individual deaths with varying causes, vs 99 children run over by AI b/c they were walking in a line holding hands and were interpreted as road markers, well that's not _better_ is it? This is purely hypothetical, but statistics gloss over those human details.
richiebful1 3y ago
Given how autonomous vehicles drive today (cautiously, within the speed limit), I feel pretty good about autonomous vehicles easily beating out humans on highway driving. I'd love to see a highway-oriented true full self driving mode developed, and I'd probably pay an additional ~10-20k to get it
- toyg 3y ago
  Highways/motorways should be the perfect ground for "self-driving trains" of cars: self-regulating convoys of vehicles going at similar speeds between exits, "attached" at safe distances. It would dramatically reduce stress and fatigue (and hence accidents) among professional drivers and other heavy users. Particularly in the US, it's an absolute no-brainer. The problem is finding who will pay for the necessary infrastructure.
  - jvanderbot 3y ago
    Highway self driving is already here. Any new car has lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control. That's all you need. For fair weather anyway.

brandonagr2 3y ago

A lot more minor injuries? You are aware that over 100 people are killed in cars every single day in the US alone right?

colonelpopcorn 3y ago
TBH, that stat seems low.
jvanderbot 3y ago
I think you missed the part where I'm not saying this is current reality, just saying it's something I worry about. Continuing your example just for exposition / hypothetical, if those are 100 individual deaths with varying causes, vs 99 children run over by AI b/c they were walking in a line holding hands and were interpreted as road markers, well that's not _better_ is it? This is purely hypothetical, but statistics gloss over those human details.

richiebful1 3y ago

Given how autonomous vehicles drive today (cautiously, within the speed limit), I feel pretty good about autonomous vehicles easily beating out humans on highway driving. I'd love to see a highway-oriented true full self driving mode developed, and I'd probably pay an additional ~10-20k to get it

toyg 3y ago
Highways/motorways should be the perfect ground for "self-driving trains" of cars: self-regulating convoys of vehicles going at similar speeds between exits, "attached" at safe distances. It would dramatically reduce stress and fatigue (and hence accidents) among professional drivers and other heavy users. Particularly in the US, it's an absolute no-brainer. The problem is finding who will pay for the necessary infrastructure.
- jvanderbot 3y ago
  Highway self driving is already here. Any new car has lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control. That's all you need. For fair weather anyway.