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A workaround (edit: in some of those cases): Setup a Tailscale exit node in the country where you're normally located - with a residential IP. E.g. in your apar

by tpmx 3y ago

A workaround (edit: in some of those cases): Setup a Tailscale exit node in the country where you're normally located - with a residential IP. E.g. in your apartment back home, or at a friend's.

aiProgMach 3y ago
This might help in specific cases yes, but in case of websites that give physical services (e.g delivery of products) it won't help much
- Mister_Snuggles 3y ago
  In this case it might actually make it worse. Why are you suddenly, while in the US (for example), ordering physical services in India? My bank locked my credit card once due to suspected fraud. I asked what triggered it and they said "You never buy gas on this card". This was 15 years ago and I'm sure the algorithms have only gotten better. A different bank used to ask you to tell them if you were planning on traveling so that your card would continue to work, they stopped doing it and said that they had improved their fraud detection and this was no longer necessary. My guess is that they take the data provided by airlines[0] when you book a flight and use that to tell where and when you're traveling. [0] https://www.marqeta.com/blog/data-details-what-is-level-1-2-and-3-data https://www.marqeta.com/blog/data-details-what-is-level-1-2-...
  - brianmiddleton 3y ago
    My favorite was the time I used my Disney credit card to book a trip to Disney World - flight, hotel, tickets, everything. No problem. Then I get to Disney World and my card gets locked when I try to buy a churro because I used my card in a new location.
  - reaperman 3y ago
    Not to mention the number of apps (and increasingly websites) which will require location services. So now you have a GPS location in India, and you're making credit card purchases alternating between USA IP's and India point-of-sale machines (and presumably sometimes Indian IP's for apps/sites that might block USA IP's) throughout the day. As a fellow world traveler / international worker, I do still think this is wrong-headed on the part of the banks, but it's the current paradigm in which we all operate. In the past it helped for me to call my banks and let them know I am traveling "for the next year" and to ease up on the fraud protection. But now with more and more layers of fraud protection, it's often not my bank that's the gatekeeper. It's things like not being able to download a local version of an app, or not being able to get a local payment account (like as in UPI payments in India, I don't know if its hard for foreigners to get that specifically but in other countries it can be very difficult without being integrated into the local payment platforms) P.S. - Re: location services...I like the catchphrase "Any device you truly own would lie on your behalf. If it won't lie for you, you don't own it." I should be able to tell my iPhone to report my location wherever I damn well want to pretend to be.
    - gruez 3y ago
      >Not to mention the number of apps (and increasingly websites) which will require location services. Like what? I've never encountered this.
    - withinboredom 3y ago
      My bank has a mode that prevents purchases from merchants more than "100 km from me" ... it turns out the ice cream truck from another city was "more than 100 km from me". That was entertaining and embarrassing because the machine was returning "insufficient funds" for a $2 ice cream, while I'm scrambling in the app trying to figure out how to turn that shit off.
agubelu 3y ago
I have a Raspberry Pi at home running an OpenVPN server, and a client config for each of my devices, and it's been extremely useful ever since.
- fishyjoe 3y ago
  How do you expose the Raspberry Pi so that you can reach it from the outside internet? My OpenVPN runs on a Digital Ocean droplet and I use it to tunnel into my home network, but having a direct route might be better.
  - tomschlick 3y ago
    If it's openvpn you can just port forward from your router to the RaspberryPi's internal ip address. If it's a webserver you can do the same, or use something like Cloudflare tunnels to expose the service.
    - duskwuff 3y ago
      Or, like the original post said, use Tailscale, which can punch a hole through the NAT for you.
      - Aachen 3y ago
        Port forwarding is easy and self-reliant compared to using a third party's free service though Not saying that's for everyone but I do feel like the default should be to click the two buttons in your router interface and third parties a fallback option or conscious choice. Probably just as quick as signing up for tailscale, if it weren't for that all routers feel like they need to reinvent a UI so it's never twice the same
        jeroenhd 3y ago
        Not everyone can get port forwarding, though. If you're stuck behind one of those terrible CGNAT+no IPv6 ISPs, you can't host your own services from home that easily. There are more of those shit tier internet providers out there than you'd hope or expect.

by tpmx 3y ago

A workaround (edit: in some of those cases): Setup a Tailscale exit node in the country where you're normally located - with a residential IP. E.g. in your apartment back home, or at a friend's.

aiProgMach 3y ago

This might help in specific cases yes, but in case of websites that give physical services (e.g delivery of products) it won't help much

Mister_Snuggles 3y ago
In this case it might actually make it worse. Why are you suddenly, while in the US (for example), ordering physical services in India? My bank locked my credit card once due to suspected fraud. I asked what triggered it and they said "You never buy gas on this card". This was 15 years ago and I'm sure the algorithms have only gotten better. A different bank used to ask you to tell them if you were planning on traveling so that your card would continue to work, they stopped doing it and said that they had improved their fraud detection and this was no longer necessary. My guess is that they take the data provided by airlines[0] when you book a flight and use that to tell where and when you're traveling. [0] https://www.marqeta.com/blog/data-details-what-is-level-1-2-and-3-data https://www.marqeta.com/blog/data-details-what-is-level-1-2-...
- brianmiddleton 3y ago
  My favorite was the time I used my Disney credit card to book a trip to Disney World - flight, hotel, tickets, everything. No problem. Then I get to Disney World and my card gets locked when I try to buy a churro because I used my card in a new location.
- reaperman 3y ago
  Not to mention the number of apps (and increasingly websites) which will require location services. So now you have a GPS location in India, and you're making credit card purchases alternating between USA IP's and India point-of-sale machines (and presumably sometimes Indian IP's for apps/sites that might block USA IP's) throughout the day. As a fellow world traveler / international worker, I do still think this is wrong-headed on the part of the banks, but it's the current paradigm in which we all operate. In the past it helped for me to call my banks and let them know I am traveling "for the next year" and to ease up on the fraud protection. But now with more and more layers of fraud protection, it's often not my bank that's the gatekeeper. It's things like not being able to download a local version of an app, or not being able to get a local payment account (like as in UPI payments in India, I don't know if its hard for foreigners to get that specifically but in other countries it can be very difficult without being integrated into the local payment platforms) P.S. - Re: location services...I like the catchphrase "Any device you truly own would lie on your behalf. If it won't lie for you, you don't own it." I should be able to tell my iPhone to report my location wherever I damn well want to pretend to be.
  - gruez 3y ago
    >Not to mention the number of apps (and increasingly websites) which will require location services. Like what? I've never encountered this.
  - withinboredom 3y ago
    My bank has a mode that prevents purchases from merchants more than "100 km from me" ... it turns out the ice cream truck from another city was "more than 100 km from me". That was entertaining and embarrassing because the machine was returning "insufficient funds" for a $2 ice cream, while I'm scrambling in the app trying to figure out how to turn that shit off.

agubelu 3y ago

I have a Raspberry Pi at home running an OpenVPN server, and a client config for each of my devices, and it's been extremely useful ever since.

fishyjoe 3y ago
How do you expose the Raspberry Pi so that you can reach it from the outside internet? My OpenVPN runs on a Digital Ocean droplet and I use it to tunnel into my home network, but having a direct route might be better.
- tomschlick 3y ago
  If it's openvpn you can just port forward from your router to the RaspberryPi's internal ip address. If it's a webserver you can do the same, or use something like Cloudflare tunnels to expose the service.
  - duskwuff 3y ago
    Or, like the original post said, use Tailscale, which can punch a hole through the NAT for you.
    - Aachen 3y ago
      Port forwarding is easy and self-reliant compared to using a third party's free service though Not saying that's for everyone but I do feel like the default should be to click the two buttons in your router interface and third parties a fallback option or conscious choice. Probably just as quick as signing up for tailscale, if it weren't for that all routers feel like they need to reinvent a UI so it's never twice the same
      - jeroenhd 3y ago
        Not everyone can get port forwarding, though. If you're stuck behind one of those terrible CGNAT+no IPv6 ISPs, you can't host your own services from home that easily. There are more of those shit tier internet providers out there than you'd hope or expect.