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We have long determined that the rule of law is only one component of a functioning society. There is a lot of stuff beyond the rule of law that makes things wo

We have long determined that the rule of law is only one component of a functioning society. There is a lot of stuff beyond the rule of law that makes things work. Anyone not understanding that will have trouble in any society.

mytailorisrich 3y ago
And mob rule is a recipe for a nasty society...
- RandomLensman 3y ago
  How is that in any way mob rule? Is having care and consideration for your fellow citizens mob rule, for example? What you want is much closer to mob rule, as seen by societies using the law for horrible purposes. Narrow legalistic views allow for the most horrible atrocities.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  The proper term is "democracy" when the mob is the majority of a society.
  - mytailorisrich 3y ago
    In a democracy you pass laws and those laws are applied uniformly, and again noone can demand that anyone else goes beyond the law.
    - RandomLensman 3y ago
      People can and do demand that - no sure why that is so difficult to understand. And there could be consequences for legal but nasty behavior and those consequences would also not violate any laws. Societies are more than just narrow legalistic machines and checking completely out of broader society is tough/comes with consequences.
    - arghwhat 3y ago
      This is a complete misunderstanding of what the purpose of a law is and how society works. Everyone always makes demands that go far above the law. Your legal demand to those around you is "don't murder me, vandalize my things and steal the remains". Your full demand also involves amongst others respectful treatment and consideration, and you don't socialize with those you who treat your poorly even though such treatment was perfectly legal. The law sets the bar for criminal liability. Society as a whole and its individuals freely set the bar for cooperation. A unionized work force is a social group that has formalized in advance the bar to cooperate with them.
      - eastlalbagh 3y ago
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mytailorisrich 3y ago

And mob rule is a recipe for a nasty society...

RandomLensman 3y ago
How is that in any way mob rule? Is having care and consideration for your fellow citizens mob rule, for example? What you want is much closer to mob rule, as seen by societies using the law for horrible purposes. Narrow legalistic views allow for the most horrible atrocities.
arghwhat 3y ago
The proper term is "democracy" when the mob is the majority of a society.
- mytailorisrich 3y ago
  In a democracy you pass laws and those laws are applied uniformly, and again noone can demand that anyone else goes beyond the law.
  - RandomLensman 3y ago
    People can and do demand that - no sure why that is so difficult to understand. And there could be consequences for legal but nasty behavior and those consequences would also not violate any laws. Societies are more than just narrow legalistic machines and checking completely out of broader society is tough/comes with consequences.
  - arghwhat 3y ago
    This is a complete misunderstanding of what the purpose of a law is and how society works. Everyone always makes demands that go far above the law. Your legal demand to those around you is "don't murder me, vandalize my things and steal the remains". Your full demand also involves amongst others respectful treatment and consideration, and you don't socialize with those you who treat your poorly even though such treatment was perfectly legal. The law sets the bar for criminal liability. Society as a whole and its individuals freely set the bar for cooperation. A unionized work force is a social group that has formalized in advance the bar to cooperate with them.
    - eastlalbagh 3y ago
      [flagged]