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Well yeah, it’s better that patent trolls can hold on to them. Apple at least is under some pressure to not abuse it’s dominant position in the market. And mor

Well yeah, it’s better that patent trolls can hold on to them. Apple at least is under some pressure to not abuse it’s dominant position in the market. And more importantly that patents in this case seem just idiotic and shouldn’t be valid in the first place.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
As if Apple doesn't hold so many idiotic patents they enforce like a huge troll.
seydor 3y ago
> under some pressure to not abuse it’s dominant position in the market Apple has a precedent in monopolistic behavior that trolls don't provably have
jojobas 3y ago
Epic would have a word.
3c6bYDXLMj 3y ago
I love how who is and isn’t considered a “patent troll” depends almost entirely on what tech nerd consumers have to gain from that classification.
rickdeckard 3y ago
> And more importantly that patents in this case seem just idiotic and shouldn’t be valid in the first place. Ah yeah? Masimo claims violation of various patents for non-invasive blood data-collection via LEDs of specific wavelengths and photo-diodes in a specific geometry, patents to reduce power consumption of pulse oximeters as well as patents to detect when a pulse oximeter probe is misaligned on a patient. They can demonstrate in the evolution of the Apple Watch how Apple launched their initial generation without such optimizations but found them to be necessary later-on, so it seems Masimo's patents are not that obvious. In reaction, Apple countersues Masimo on the grounds of their DESIGN patent of the watch itself [1], among others based on design patents for a circular charging "puck" and the DESIGN of aligning LEDs, photodiodes and charging coil in a circular geometry. They basically claim that Masimo took unfair shortcuts in 2020 when designing a Smartwatch with a rectangular display, a geometric alignment of LEDs and photodiodes MASIMO ALREADY PATENTED and using a circular charging connector. Ah. And Masimo already won TWICE with their claim as a judge upheld the ruling, so that's where we are now. A trillion dollar troll trying to frame himself as the victim. [1] https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zdvxdyorxvx/IP%20APPLE%20MASIMO%20PATENTS%20designpatents.pdf https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zdvxdyorxvx/...
toyg 3y ago
Masimo is an actual company building real products, not a patent troll.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

As if Apple doesn't hold so many idiotic patents they enforce like a huge troll.

seydor 3y ago

> under some pressure to not abuse it’s dominant position in the market Apple has a precedent in monopolistic behavior that trolls don't provably have

jojobas 3y ago

Epic would have a word.

3c6bYDXLMj 3y ago

I love how who is and isn’t considered a “patent troll” depends almost entirely on what tech nerd consumers have to gain from that classification.

rickdeckard 3y ago

> And more importantly that patents in this case seem just idiotic and shouldn’t be valid in the first place. Ah yeah? Masimo claims violation of various patents for non-invasive blood data-collection via LEDs of specific wavelengths and photo-diodes in a specific geometry, patents to reduce power consumption of pulse oximeters as well as patents to detect when a pulse oximeter probe is misaligned on a patient. They can demonstrate in the evolution of the Apple Watch how Apple launched their initial generation without such optimizations but found them to be necessary later-on, so it seems Masimo's patents are not that obvious. In reaction, Apple countersues Masimo on the grounds of their DESIGN patent of the watch itself [1], among others based on design patents for a circular charging "puck" and the DESIGN of aligning LEDs, photodiodes and charging coil in a circular geometry. They basically claim that Masimo took unfair shortcuts in 2020 when designing a Smartwatch with a rectangular display, a geometric alignment of LEDs and photodiodes MASIMO ALREADY PATENTED and using a circular charging connector. Ah. And Masimo already won TWICE with their claim as a judge upheld the ruling, so that's where we are now. A trillion dollar troll trying to frame himself as the victim. [1] https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zdvxdyorxvx/IP%20APPLE%20MASIMO%20PATENTS%20designpatents.pdf https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zdvxdyorxvx/...

toyg 3y ago

Masimo is an actual company building real products, not a patent troll.