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i think he's pointing out how a male-dominated culture would respond with mansplaining about one's responsibility to adapt to the workplace, where a woman-domin

i think he's pointing out how a male-dominated culture would respond with mansplaining about one's responsibility to adapt to the workplace, where a woman-dominated culture might focus more on the emotional toll of such failing to adapt edit: on second thought, your comment might be snarking about how a poll is unnecessary to assume that this is a male-dominated space, making me the fool

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
Well first off I’m a woman. But I wasn’t talking about women focusing on “the emotional toll of failing to adapt”. I’m talking about the fact that in our culture men are more likely to trust other men than women, and more likely to dismiss the claims made by women. This directly leads to discrimination against women in the workplace. The specific ways this happen can often seem subtle from the outside, but the persistence and prevalence of this is clearly felt by women in tech. There is nothing women can do to adapt to the fact that men won’t listen to them, men need to change their behavior. Women who try to adapt by being more assertive can be labeled as aggressive and will be dismissed all the same. Then when women make claims about discrimination in the workplace in a manner which finds its way to this website, the same men who would have dismissed them in the workplace will dismiss their claims of discrimination in comments here. This leads to an echo chamber of men saying to each other that discrimination against women isn’t happening, when in reality they just don’t see it from their position.
DoreenMichele 3y ago
According to the profile, TaylorAlexander is a she/her pronouned person. I was a homemaker for a couple of decades. I spent 5 years and 3 months working at a Fortune 500 company. I have since done freelance work and I'm a blogger. I haven't spent a lot of time in "the work place" -- by which I mean heteronormative assumptions that the only real work is paid work and women's work doesn't count. My place of work for much of my adult life was my home, and not in a "work from home" sense. Anyway, I'm not being snarky. I'm just some demographic outlier who thinks a lot about how gender interacts with societal expectations about work and my ideas about it generally fall outside the Overton Window, so I say a lot less than I used to because it tends to be pointless drama where everyone wants to accuse me of something while not seeming at all interested in what I'm trying to say.
- smegsicle 3y ago
  may you continue to hold the fort and other such women's work
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    I'm divorced and in desperate need of earned income. But I thank you for your well wishes.

TaylorAlexander 3y ago

Well first off I’m a woman. But I wasn’t talking about women focusing on “the emotional toll of failing to adapt”. I’m talking about the fact that in our culture men are more likely to trust other men than women, and more likely to dismiss the claims made by women. This directly leads to discrimination against women in the workplace. The specific ways this happen can often seem subtle from the outside, but the persistence and prevalence of this is clearly felt by women in tech. There is nothing women can do to adapt to the fact that men won’t listen to them, men need to change their behavior. Women who try to adapt by being more assertive can be labeled as aggressive and will be dismissed all the same. Then when women make claims about discrimination in the workplace in a manner which finds its way to this website, the same men who would have dismissed them in the workplace will dismiss their claims of discrimination in comments here. This leads to an echo chamber of men saying to each other that discrimination against women isn’t happening, when in reality they just don’t see it from their position.

DoreenMichele 3y ago

According to the profile, TaylorAlexander is a she/her pronouned person. I was a homemaker for a couple of decades. I spent 5 years and 3 months working at a Fortune 500 company. I have since done freelance work and I'm a blogger. I haven't spent a lot of time in "the work place" -- by which I mean heteronormative assumptions that the only real work is paid work and women's work doesn't count. My place of work for much of my adult life was my home, and not in a "work from home" sense. Anyway, I'm not being snarky. I'm just some demographic outlier who thinks a lot about how gender interacts with societal expectations about work and my ideas about it generally fall outside the Overton Window, so I say a lot less than I used to because it tends to be pointless drama where everyone wants to accuse me of something while not seeming at all interested in what I'm trying to say.

smegsicle 3y ago
may you continue to hold the fort and other such women's work
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  I'm divorced and in desperate need of earned income. But I thank you for your well wishes.