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Taiwan is less recognised by the outside world than Kosovo is, and it has its own country code. Same with Palestine. Having a country code is only weakly relate

by jmopp 3y ago

Taiwan is less recognised by the outside world than Kosovo is, and it has its own country code. Same with Palestine. Having a country code is only weakly related to being a country.

sspiff 3y ago
Ahem, the Republic of China is their preferred name.
- wodenokoto 3y ago
  No, it’s the official name. Do you also correct people who say “France” or “Germany” to say “Republic of France” and “Federal Republic of Germany”? Like, what’s even your point?
  - rob74 3y ago
    The point is that Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China (being the island where the former government fled to when the Communists took over the rest of the country - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War), and they express that by using "Republic of China" (as opposed to "People's Republic of China"). Similar to how there used to be a "Federal Republic of Germany" and a "German Democratic Republic". You could call both "Germany", but that would be confusing...
    - arp242 3y ago
      > The point is that Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China Not since the early 90s. Well actually it's a bit more complex since there are multiple parties and they disagree, and there's some nuance (e.g. "one China" but without actually defining what that means, exactly). But "Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China" is woefully outdated and incorrect.
    - jowea 3y ago
      That's mostly a symbolic legal fiction. And I'm guessing here but at least the half of the country who wants to be independent might prefer to be called Taiwan rather than RoC in casual conversation.
    - shiomiru 3y ago
      It is not confusing at all. Taiwan is a commonly used name for the ROC, and (mainland) China is generally understood as a reference to the PRC. Since the de facto territories of the two states are common knowledge, you can unambiguously refer to them just by mentioning their rough position on the map. Similarly, East/West Germany were not officially called East/West Germany, and it was not the official name of either country, but people still understood what the words meant.
midasuni 3y ago
.aq, .ad, .eh, .eu, .io, .krd, .mo, .su come to mind. As does rfc1591 “The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country.”

by jmopp 3y ago

Taiwan is less recognised by the outside world than Kosovo is, and it has its own country code. Same with Palestine. Having a country code is only weakly related to being a country.

sspiff 3y ago

Ahem, the Republic of China is their preferred name.

wodenokoto 3y ago
No, it’s the official name. Do you also correct people who say “France” or “Germany” to say “Republic of France” and “Federal Republic of Germany”? Like, what’s even your point?
- rob74 3y ago
  The point is that Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China (being the island where the former government fled to when the Communists took over the rest of the country - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War), and they express that by using "Republic of China" (as opposed to "People's Republic of China"). Similar to how there used to be a "Federal Republic of Germany" and a "German Democratic Republic". You could call both "Germany", but that would be confusing...
  - arp242 3y ago
    > The point is that Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China Not since the early 90s. Well actually it's a bit more complex since there are multiple parties and they disagree, and there's some nuance (e.g. "one China" but without actually defining what that means, exactly). But "Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of the whole of China" is woefully outdated and incorrect.
  - jowea 3y ago
    That's mostly a symbolic legal fiction. And I'm guessing here but at least the half of the country who wants to be independent might prefer to be called Taiwan rather than RoC in casual conversation.
  - shiomiru 3y ago
    It is not confusing at all. Taiwan is a commonly used name for the ROC, and (mainland) China is generally understood as a reference to the PRC. Since the de facto territories of the two states are common knowledge, you can unambiguously refer to them just by mentioning their rough position on the map. Similarly, East/West Germany were not officially called East/West Germany, and it was not the official name of either country, but people still understood what the words meant.

midasuni 3y ago

.aq, .ad, .eh, .eu, .io, .krd, .mo, .su come to mind. As does rfc1591 “The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country.”