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Not sure what this article is about. A country with the name of Yugoslavia continued to exist all throughout the 90s. The article argues it was some kind of an

Not sure what this article is about. A country with the name of Yugoslavia continued to exist all throughout the 90s. The article argues it was some kind of an imperialistic claim, but ... whatever? It still existed and it was called like this. They took part in the FIFA world cup 1998 under the name? I find it strange that the article pretends this doesn't matter and matter of factly deals with the "curious" case of a country not existing, but its domain existing. If they wanted to deal with this case, they had the .su domain of the Soviet Union, which still exists.

keiferski 3y ago
It’s not “whatever.” In the 90s, Yugoslavia ceased to be the unified south Slavic state and only included Serbia and Montenegro. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro
- locallost 3y ago
  It's whatever related to the domain name. The name Yugoslavia still existed, and if it was acceptable for them to take part in the World Cup it was acceptable enough for ICANN to keep the .yu domain.
  - Hendrikto 3y ago
    I really don‘t think FIFA should be the arbiter of who is or is not a country…
dragonwriter 3y ago
> I find it strange that the article pretends this doesn't matter and matter of factly deals with the "curious" case of a country not existing, but its domain existing. While the article is wrong about the amount of time, it is correct that .yu outlived Yugoslavia by several years; the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was replaced in 2003 with the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro, which itself was dissolved in 2006; the .yu domain was eliminated in 2010. > If they wanted to deal with this case, they had the .su domain of the Soviet Union, which still exists. The situation with the .su domain is discussed at length in the article and its continued existence and use is contrasted with the treatment of .yu.
asta123 3y ago
I think main point of the article is that with deletion of .yu domain many websites and historical content was lost - "At its peak .yu hosted about 32,000 websites."
lmm 3y ago
> A country with the name of Yugoslavia continued to exist all throughout the 90s. A country that claimed that name existed. It wasn't widely recognised as being the successor state of the country of that name and was not considered entitled to its domain name.
- helij 3y ago
  Actually it was widely recognised and a member of UN. Then it changed its name to Serbia and Montenegro and finally when Montenegro exited the union it became Serbia again.
  - lmm 3y ago
    It was recognised as being a state, but not as the successor of the state previously called Yugoslavia. It was specifically not allowed to retain Yugoslavia's UN seat and obliged to apply as a new country.
- locallost 3y ago
  Every country claims its name exists, not sure what you mean. Whether or not it was accepted as a successor state is not that important for ICANN. There's a country called Yugoslavia consisting of parts of another previous Yugoslavia, and they're supposed to cancel the .yu domain and issue it a new domain called .foo? Seems really not practical.
  - lmm 3y ago
    > Every country claims its name exists, not sure what you mean. Just because you claim your country has a certain name doesn't mean it does, if the rest of the international community doesn't recognise it. > There's a country called Yugoslavia consisting of parts of another previous Yugoslavia, and they're supposed to cancel the .yu domain and issue it a new domain called .foo? If the country calling itself Yugoslavia was recognised as the sucessor state of the prior country called Yugoslavia, then it would inherit the .yu domain. If that succession is not recognised, then it doesn't get to keep that domain and needs a new one (and even if the name is similar or the same, since it's a different country it can't have the domain which belonged to the old country). Seems reasonable to me.

keiferski 3y ago

It’s not “whatever.” In the 90s, Yugoslavia ceased to be the unified south Slavic state and only included Serbia and Montenegro. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro

locallost 3y ago
It's whatever related to the domain name. The name Yugoslavia still existed, and if it was acceptable for them to take part in the World Cup it was acceptable enough for ICANN to keep the .yu domain.
- Hendrikto 3y ago
  I really don‘t think FIFA should be the arbiter of who is or is not a country…

dragonwriter 3y ago

> I find it strange that the article pretends this doesn't matter and matter of factly deals with the "curious" case of a country not existing, but its domain existing. While the article is wrong about the amount of time, it is correct that .yu outlived Yugoslavia by several years; the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was replaced in 2003 with the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro, which itself was dissolved in 2006; the .yu domain was eliminated in 2010. > If they wanted to deal with this case, they had the .su domain of the Soviet Union, which still exists. The situation with the .su domain is discussed at length in the article and its continued existence and use is contrasted with the treatment of .yu.

asta123 3y ago

I think main point of the article is that with deletion of .yu domain many websites and historical content was lost - "At its peak .yu hosted about 32,000 websites."

lmm 3y ago

> A country with the name of Yugoslavia continued to exist all throughout the 90s. A country that claimed that name existed. It wasn't widely recognised as being the successor state of the country of that name and was not considered entitled to its domain name.

helij 3y ago
Actually it was widely recognised and a member of UN. Then it changed its name to Serbia and Montenegro and finally when Montenegro exited the union it became Serbia again.
- lmm 3y ago
  It was recognised as being a state, but not as the successor of the state previously called Yugoslavia. It was specifically not allowed to retain Yugoslavia's UN seat and obliged to apply as a new country.
locallost 3y ago
Every country claims its name exists, not sure what you mean. Whether or not it was accepted as a successor state is not that important for ICANN. There's a country called Yugoslavia consisting of parts of another previous Yugoslavia, and they're supposed to cancel the .yu domain and issue it a new domain called .foo? Seems really not practical.
- lmm 3y ago
  > Every country claims its name exists, not sure what you mean. Just because you claim your country has a certain name doesn't mean it does, if the rest of the international community doesn't recognise it. > There's a country called Yugoslavia consisting of parts of another previous Yugoslavia, and they're supposed to cancel the .yu domain and issue it a new domain called .foo? If the country calling itself Yugoslavia was recognised as the sucessor state of the prior country called Yugoslavia, then it would inherit the .yu domain. If that succession is not recognised, then it doesn't get to keep that domain and needs a new one (and even if the name is similar or the same, since it's a different country it can't have the domain which belonged to the old country). Seems reasonable to me.