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Do we have to have this conversation in every single thread that mentions driverless cars? We get it, an extremely vocal subset of reddit/HN who lives` in down

by dmix 3y ago

Do we have to have this conversation in every single thread that mentions driverless cars? We get it, an extremely vocal subset of reddit/HN who lives` in downtown cities likes public transit more than cars.

kdmccormick 3y ago
Yes, and every time AI comes up, the downsides of AI are also brought up. Because they're important to talk about. Anyway, the driverless car pilots are happening in our dense city downtowns. If it was all confined to Palo Alto and other techie suburbs then maybe we wouldn't care as much.
gobins 3y ago
It probably is not the same people having that discussion in every thread. Also, people may have views that can change overtime.
mattmaroon 3y ago
And bikes. My first thought was “oh god here comes the pro-bike bullshit again”.
seadan83 3y ago
If you believe that AI cars are snake-oil in a near peak hype-cycle, then there would be a real concern that that non-solution is distracting from the very real problem of how to move people at scale.
xnx 3y ago
It's a technically impressive technology that's right at a key inflection point with potentially huge ramifications to how 15% of the economy is structured. I think I'm an outlier because I like trains, bikes, and cars, but you have to pick the right tool for the job. In the US, new train lines are almost never the right tool.
- danny_codes 3y ago
  Or rather, it is the right tool, but the constituents are so uneducated about urbanism that they flatly reject it. Kind of an interesting dynamic when you think about it.
dontlaugh 3y ago
Most people on earth live in cities. Most of those cities have working public transport. Focusing on cars so much is to the detriment of all of humanity, hence the common pushback.
ghusto 3y ago
Hope so. It's actually the first time I've seen it, but glad it's being raised, and hope it gets raised every time. As far as I see, this isn't solving a problem as much as it is getting in at the ground floor on a technology that will take even more autonomy away from people.

by dmix 3y ago

kdmccormick 3y ago

Yes, and every time AI comes up, the downsides of AI are also brought up. Because they're important to talk about. Anyway, the driverless car pilots are happening in our dense city downtowns. If it was all confined to Palo Alto and other techie suburbs then maybe we wouldn't care as much.

gobins 3y ago

It probably is not the same people having that discussion in every thread. Also, people may have views that can change overtime.

mattmaroon 3y ago

And bikes. My first thought was “oh god here comes the pro-bike bullshit again”.

seadan83 3y ago

If you believe that AI cars are snake-oil in a near peak hype-cycle, then there would be a real concern that that non-solution is distracting from the very real problem of how to move people at scale.

xnx 3y ago

It's a technically impressive technology that's right at a key inflection point with potentially huge ramifications to how 15% of the economy is structured. I think I'm an outlier because I like trains, bikes, and cars, but you have to pick the right tool for the job. In the US, new train lines are almost never the right tool.

danny_codes 3y ago
Or rather, it is the right tool, but the constituents are so uneducated about urbanism that they flatly reject it. Kind of an interesting dynamic when you think about it.

dontlaugh 3y ago

Most people on earth live in cities. Most of those cities have working public transport. Focusing on cars so much is to the detriment of all of humanity, hence the common pushback.

ghusto 3y ago

Hope so. It's actually the first time I've seen it, but glad it's being raised, and hope it gets raised every time. As far as I see, this isn't solving a problem as much as it is getting in at the ground floor on a technology that will take even more autonomy away from people.