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When I mean fair I mean less biased based on prior domain-specific knowlede. Of course people who are better at any X-style interview will be advantaged over pe

When I mean fair I mean less biased based on prior domain-specific knowlede. Of course people who are better at any X-style interview will be advantaged over people less good at X-style interviews. However I feel that if it were really useless then it wouldn't be the status quo for so long for so many billion-dollar companies who easily have enough money to put more finesse into hiring if they wanted. General capacity over whether you are able to build anything is harder to intuit in interviews, but resume, past experience, systems design style interviews, github/portfolio give a good estimation.

b20000 3y ago
it is the status quo because it allows companies to discard the value of experience because leetcode style interviews do not take that into account. once you are hired they can profit from your experience without really paying for it. it also lets them avoid potential discrimination issues. always ask yourself what the real reasons are behind the “status quo”.
wruza 3y ago
I don’t hire, but if I was, then for finance I’d hire a guy with finance and stock exchange automation bias, who knows e.g. common pitfalls in working with exchanges. So they could avoid losing money or creating an accounting mess. For business I’d look for a guy who dealt with bigcorp bullshit protocols and e.g. knows up front that “there’s API” may mean anything from exactly that to “we have a half-working semi-email system with rate-limited polling and no idempotency”. So they could make correct predictions and decisions. For both I’d like to see 5-10kloc past or example project, or at least few pages of code that they assume is both practical and good enough, to get the sense of their development (not CS) skills and habits. I have no idea what for I’d hire if they excel at leetcode. That position must probably relate to some rocket science in a low-power low-tech environment where external dependencies are forbidden by a sort of a military contract. Because irl when you need btree/redblack/matrix/etc, you need postgresql or import <package_name>. Not to write it from scratch because you smart. if it were really useless then it wouldn't be the status quo for so long for so many billion-dollar companies who easily have enough money Their money can what others can not. But that doesn’t mean that all others aren’t just practicing cargo cultism.

b20000 3y ago

it is the status quo because it allows companies to discard the value of experience because leetcode style interviews do not take that into account. once you are hired they can profit from your experience without really paying for it. it also lets them avoid potential discrimination issues. always ask yourself what the real reasons are behind the “status quo”.

wruza 3y ago

I don’t hire, but if I was, then for finance I’d hire a guy with finance and stock exchange automation bias, who knows e.g. common pitfalls in working with exchanges. So they could avoid losing money or creating an accounting mess. For business I’d look for a guy who dealt with bigcorp bullshit protocols and e.g. knows up front that “there’s API” may mean anything from exactly that to “we have a half-working semi-email system with rate-limited polling and no idempotency”. So they could make correct predictions and decisions. For both I’d like to see 5-10kloc past or example project, or at least few pages of code that they assume is both practical and good enough, to get the sense of their development (not CS) skills and habits. I have no idea what for I’d hire if they excel at leetcode. That position must probably relate to some rocket science in a low-power low-tech environment where external dependencies are forbidden by a sort of a military contract. Because irl when you need btree/redblack/matrix/etc, you need postgresql or import <package_name>. Not to write it from scratch because you smart. if it were really useless then it wouldn't be the status quo for so long for so many billion-dollar companies who easily have enough money Their money can what others can not. But that doesn’t mean that all others aren’t just practicing cargo cultism.