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I can only speak for myself and my immediate circle, electric cars seem like a hassle because you have to plan more to charge them. I can't just go on a spontan

by mcntsh 3y ago

I can only speak for myself and my immediate circle, electric cars seem like a hassle because you have to plan more to charge them. I can't just go on a spontaneous trip and know that almost any point if I need to fill up I can do so, quickly.

peterashford 3y ago
so get a hybrid
- mcntsh 3y ago
  This article is about EVs
GeertB 3y ago
Actually, that's mostly false. If you can charge at home, you'll have a fully charged car in your driveway every morning. With the Tesla charging network, you really can charge no matter where you want to go. Typically after 4 hours or so of driving, I'm ready to take a bathroom break, stretch my legs and get a coffee. By the time I'm back the car is charged to 80% or so, good to go for another 250 miles or so.
- maxerickson 3y ago
  There's a difference between it being doable and it not being a hassle. In even slightly rural areas you have to plan to stop at a small number of locations rather than just stopping whenever gas/food/break makes sense.
- Yizahi 3y ago
  That's a very big IF. Over here in EU many (most?) people live in the apartment buildings of different types, and there are no charging spots on the parkings. Having to rely only on the EV stations is deal breaker when comparing with the similarly priced ICE. I can't see myself buying EV while renting an apartment. PS: I do want to buy an EV. I'm not one of those ICE-only people.
- mcntsh 3y ago
  Having a SFH and a driveway is another nearly insurmountable requirement.
iAMkenough 3y ago
I was worried about that too, but the day-to-day benefits ended up outweighing that concern considering 90% of my driving is within 150 miles of my home. The few times a year I do drive more than 150 miles in a trip, I've already found my favorite DC fast charging stations in each direction along the interstate. The car's navigation system takes into account the car's battery life, expected range, and available charging stations, so it does most of my route planning for me. If I'm really in a crunch for time or going on an extra long haul, the cost of the occasional rental car is still cheaper than what I was spending on gas each year. I know my experience isn't the same as other parts of the world, but the range anxiety of owning an EV quickly fades after it becomes part of your routine and you get a feel for the actual limits of your car.
TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
You are absolutely correct. BEV charging is a peak of inconvenience. I have Skoda Enyaq and I need to charge it all over the place (not everyone lives in US suburbia), wasting my time on a charger while fighting with stupid applications, which you can't charge without, and paying about as much as I would with regular ICE vehicle (which has 50% of fuel cost made by a tax!) because in Europe we have decided to electrify everything without building the powerplants and the infrastructure first.

by mcntsh 3y ago

peterashford 3y ago

so get a hybrid

mcntsh 3y ago
This article is about EVs

GeertB 3y ago

Actually, that's mostly false. If you can charge at home, you'll have a fully charged car in your driveway every morning. With the Tesla charging network, you really can charge no matter where you want to go. Typically after 4 hours or so of driving, I'm ready to take a bathroom break, stretch my legs and get a coffee. By the time I'm back the car is charged to 80% or so, good to go for another 250 miles or so.

maxerickson 3y ago
There's a difference between it being doable and it not being a hassle. In even slightly rural areas you have to plan to stop at a small number of locations rather than just stopping whenever gas/food/break makes sense.
Yizahi 3y ago
That's a very big IF. Over here in EU many (most?) people live in the apartment buildings of different types, and there are no charging spots on the parkings. Having to rely only on the EV stations is deal breaker when comparing with the similarly priced ICE. I can't see myself buying EV while renting an apartment. PS: I do want to buy an EV. I'm not one of those ICE-only people.
mcntsh 3y ago
Having a SFH and a driveway is another nearly insurmountable requirement.

iAMkenough 3y ago

I was worried about that too, but the day-to-day benefits ended up outweighing that concern considering 90% of my driving is within 150 miles of my home. The few times a year I do drive more than 150 miles in a trip, I've already found my favorite DC fast charging stations in each direction along the interstate. The car's navigation system takes into account the car's battery life, expected range, and available charging stations, so it does most of my route planning for me. If I'm really in a crunch for time or going on an extra long haul, the cost of the occasional rental car is still cheaper than what I was spending on gas each year. I know my experience isn't the same as other parts of the world, but the range anxiety of owning an EV quickly fades after it becomes part of your routine and you get a feel for the actual limits of your car.

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago

You are absolutely correct. BEV charging is a peak of inconvenience. I have Skoda Enyaq and I need to charge it all over the place (not everyone lives in US suburbia), wasting my time on a charger while fighting with stupid applications, which you can't charge without, and paying about as much as I would with regular ICE vehicle (which has 50% of fuel cost made by a tax!) because in Europe we have decided to electrify everything without building the powerplants and the infrastructure first.