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> The share menu is supposed to just pass a URL from Safari to another app. It's a glorified copy and paste, not a page load. Says who? It's used to show the

by arp242 3y ago

> The share menu is supposed to just pass a URL from Safari to another app. It's a glorified copy and paste, not a page load. Says who? It's used to show the icon and page title. That seems useful. I think your expectations are unrealistic. If it's somehow extremely critical you don't actually make any requests to this URL then you're already playing with fire here, as it's not too hard to accidentally click the wrong mouse button or whatnot.

lapcat 3y ago
> It's used to show the icon and page title. That seems useful. How so? Please explain how the iana.org icon in the blog post screenshot is useful. Moreover, as the Addendum explains, that information is not even passed along to the other app when the URL is shared. It only appears in the share menu but ironically doesn't get shared.
- arp242 3y ago
  Yes, I read that; in the screenshot it shows the icon and title of the page you're about to share. That seems useful. You may personally not find that useful, but clearly people do.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    > You may personally not find that useful, but clearly people do. How is that clear? I understand that someone inside Apple decided this was a good idea, perhaps for aesthetic reasons, but that's not the same as being clearly useful to people.
    - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
      I agree that GP is kind of misusing the word "useful", but I do think you're missing the point. People like using aesthetically-pleasing software; improving aesthetics adds "value" if perhaps not "usefulness".
      - lapcat 3y ago
        Except the new Ventura-style share sheet is ugly as hell, and it's oddly detached from the contextual menu. I critiqued the UI of the new share sheet in a previous blog post, linked at the beginning of this one. It seems to be yet another example of Apple bringing iOS UI to macOS.
        Wowfunhappy 3y ago
        I absolutely agree, modern macOS looks awful—but it's subjective! And certainly, having the favicon is better than the same UI without the favicon.
    - arp242 3y ago
      It shows you information about the site. That seems useful.

by arp242 3y ago

lapcat 3y ago

> It's used to show the icon and page title. That seems useful. How so? Please explain how the iana.org icon in the blog post screenshot is useful. Moreover, as the Addendum explains, that information is not even passed along to the other app when the URL is shared. It only appears in the share menu but ironically doesn't get shared.

arp242 3y ago
Yes, I read that; in the screenshot it shows the icon and title of the page you're about to share. That seems useful. You may personally not find that useful, but clearly people do.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > You may personally not find that useful, but clearly people do. How is that clear? I understand that someone inside Apple decided this was a good idea, perhaps for aesthetic reasons, but that's not the same as being clearly useful to people.
  - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
    I agree that GP is kind of misusing the word "useful", but I do think you're missing the point. People like using aesthetically-pleasing software; improving aesthetics adds "value" if perhaps not "usefulness".
    - lapcat 3y ago
      Except the new Ventura-style share sheet is ugly as hell, and it's oddly detached from the contextual menu. I critiqued the UI of the new share sheet in a previous blog post, linked at the beginning of this one. It seems to be yet another example of Apple bringing iOS UI to macOS.
      - Wowfunhappy 3y ago
        I absolutely agree, modern macOS looks awful—but it's subjective! And certainly, having the favicon is better than the same UI without the favicon.
  - arp242 3y ago
    It shows you information about the site. That seems useful.