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Wait, but if the copyright holder is sending the actual payload to you as a client, couldn't you make the argument that they implicitly authorized you to have i

by Spoom 3y ago

Wait, but if the copyright holder is sending the actual payload to you as a client, couldn't you make the argument that they implicitly authorized you to have it? AFAIK, cops can't deal you actual drugs and then arrest you for it.

londons_explore 3y ago
If that was a concern, they could always cut off the connection right before sending the data packet.
skrowl 3y ago
Cops can absolutely do that. Cops posing as prostitutes can arrest you for attempting to purchase sex from them as well.
- Spoom 3y ago
  The key there is the attempt. As South Park so memorably pointed out, they don't actually go through with it before arresting you.
- Ms-J 3y ago
  This is absolutely true in many states in America. Not sure why you received any down votes.
phoenk 3y ago
What you're describing is entrapment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment Sometimes its legal, depends where you are and how it was done.
- webstrand 3y ago
  The copyright holders are not agents of the state, this is not entrapment.
chmod775 3y ago
It's something Prenda Law got up to and is among the things that did them in. > An expert witness affidavit stated that IP addresses linked to Prenda's Minnesota and Florida offices and John Steele, had themselves been identified in 2013 as the initial "seeders" (sharers) of some pornographic media, tagged for "fast" sharing on file-sharing networks, which would be followed up by threat of legal action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law
X6S1x6Okd1st 3y ago
> AFAIK, cops can't deal you actual drugs and then arrest you for it. Why not? This sounds like a misunderstanding of entrapment
KingMob 3y ago
Cops can totally do that. "Entrapment" is actually quite narrow. IANAL, but my understanding is it requires showing that you wouldn't have done the illegal activity without the involvement of the police. Harassing a person for months to buy weed qualifies; posing as a drug dealer and offering drugs to the people who pass by you, does not.

by Spoom 3y ago

londons_explore 3y ago

If that was a concern, they could always cut off the connection right before sending the data packet.

skrowl 3y ago

Cops can absolutely do that. Cops posing as prostitutes can arrest you for attempting to purchase sex from them as well.

Spoom 3y ago
The key there is the attempt. As South Park so memorably pointed out, they don't actually go through with it before arresting you.
Ms-J 3y ago
This is absolutely true in many states in America. Not sure why you received any down votes.

phoenk 3y ago

What you're describing is entrapment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment Sometimes its legal, depends where you are and how it was done.

webstrand 3y ago
The copyright holders are not agents of the state, this is not entrapment.

chmod775 3y ago

It's something Prenda Law got up to and is among the things that did them in. > An expert witness affidavit stated that IP addresses linked to Prenda's Minnesota and Florida offices and John Steele, had themselves been identified in 2013 as the initial "seeders" (sharers) of some pornographic media, tagged for "fast" sharing on file-sharing networks, which would be followed up by threat of legal action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law

X6S1x6Okd1st 3y ago

> AFAIK, cops can't deal you actual drugs and then arrest you for it. Why not? This sounds like a misunderstanding of entrapment

KingMob 3y ago

Cops can totally do that. "Entrapment" is actually quite narrow. IANAL, but my understanding is it requires showing that you wouldn't have done the illegal activity without the involvement of the police. Harassing a person for months to buy weed qualifies; posing as a drug dealer and offering drugs to the people who pass by you, does not.