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I stopped paying attention when someone recently told me that everyone uses nextjs because “nextjs is meta right now”. Mind you this person has been a developer

I stopped paying attention when someone recently told me that everyone uses nextjs because “nextjs is meta right now”. Mind you this person has been a developer for about 3 years (not that there’s anything wrong with that but it gives you an idea of whose buying into this stuff) Vercels devrel is by far the best thing that they do, miles ahead of their engineering.

tomjakubowski 3y ago
well to me part of the reason to identify "the meta" is not to go along with it, but so you can develop tactics to counter it -- but maybe not everyone thinks that way Really though, it's not true that "everyone is using nextjs", so it's not "the meta" anyhow. I think most developers can safely ignore it
- boredtofears 3y ago
  I think anyone who says everyone uses X now exists in some kind of bubble when it comes to technology. I don't want to counter their point just for the sake of countering it but if a person's only supporting argument for using a tool is "everyone uses it" there isn't much of an argument to be had in the first place.
johnfn 3y ago
So you stopped using a product because a junior engineer liked it? That doesn't strike me as the best rationale to make a decision.
- boredtofears 3y ago
  So you start using a product just because other people tell you they are popular? That doesn't strike me as the best rationale to make a decision.
  - bentruyman 3y ago
    That's not the argument being made. Nobody said that.
    - boredtofears 3y ago
      Just like I never made the argument claimed either.
      - johnfn 3y ago
        What did you mean by "I stopped paying attention" then? Was that a metaphor? It looks like you made the argument I claimed quite clearly.
        boredtofears 3y ago
        Stopped paying attention to the hype? I never claimed to use next.js. How did I make that claim quite clearly exactly?
- 10xDev 3y ago
  Notice how you subconsciously called Next a product.
  - johnfn 3y ago
    What's wrong with that? I have no illusions that Next.js is part of a larger strategy to get me to pay money for services. I feel the same way about VSCode and Azure, or Github and Copilot, etc. I don't have any problem with paying money for products that deserve it.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    How is it not a product? It is produced and used. Many types of software are also products, whether they're VC funded or not.
    - 10xDev 3y ago
      I am not arguing that it is not. I very much agree Next is a product because it very much fits its definition: "an article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.". But this is wrong by definition: "Many types of software are also products, whether they're VC funded or not."
ulizzle 3y ago
That's funny. What does that even mean, "Meta?" You can game it for points or something?

tomjakubowski 3y ago

well to me part of the reason to identify "the meta" is not to go along with it, but so you can develop tactics to counter it -- but maybe not everyone thinks that way Really though, it's not true that "everyone is using nextjs", so it's not "the meta" anyhow. I think most developers can safely ignore it

boredtofears 3y ago
I think anyone who says everyone uses X now exists in some kind of bubble when it comes to technology. I don't want to counter their point just for the sake of countering it but if a person's only supporting argument for using a tool is "everyone uses it" there isn't much of an argument to be had in the first place.

johnfn 3y ago

So you stopped using a product because a junior engineer liked it? That doesn't strike me as the best rationale to make a decision.

boredtofears 3y ago
So you start using a product just because other people tell you they are popular? That doesn't strike me as the best rationale to make a decision.
- bentruyman 3y ago
  That's not the argument being made. Nobody said that.
  - boredtofears 3y ago
    Just like I never made the argument claimed either.
    - johnfn 3y ago
      What did you mean by "I stopped paying attention" then? Was that a metaphor? It looks like you made the argument I claimed quite clearly.
      - boredtofears 3y ago
        Stopped paying attention to the hype? I never claimed to use next.js. How did I make that claim quite clearly exactly?
10xDev 3y ago
Notice how you subconsciously called Next a product.
- johnfn 3y ago
  What's wrong with that? I have no illusions that Next.js is part of a larger strategy to get me to pay money for services. I feel the same way about VSCode and Azure, or Github and Copilot, etc. I don't have any problem with paying money for products that deserve it.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  How is it not a product? It is produced and used. Many types of software are also products, whether they're VC funded or not.
  - 10xDev 3y ago
    I am not arguing that it is not. I very much agree Next is a product because it very much fits its definition: "an article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.". But this is wrong by definition: "Many types of software are also products, whether they're VC funded or not."

ulizzle 3y ago

That's funny. What does that even mean, "Meta?" You can game it for points or something?