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It's a shame he cheated on his wife :(
by appletrotter 3y ago
It's a shame he cheated on his wife :(
- nativespecies 3y agoNot sure why you're getting downvoted. It almost certainly played a role in the band breaking up as well.
- cammikebrown 3y agoIt was the entire reason they broke up, in fact.
- Modified3019 3y agoHuh, well that’s disappointing to hear. This sort of thing is why I basically never look into the personal lives of artists.
- adw 3y agoThe whole backstory here is, to say the least, complex, extends over about a decade, and is important subtext for the last few SY records. Starting around 2003, Jim O'Rourke (go listen to Bad Timing and Insignificance, which are both amazing records and very different to each other) was in a relationship with Eva Prinz while she was in a (maybe?) open marriage to her first husband. In some order, then: * Jim and Eva break up * (2005) Jim a) leaves Sonic Youth b) moves across the country c) moves to Japan * (2006) Eva and Thurston Moore start a publishing company, Ecstatic Peace Library * somewhere in here, Eva Prinz gets divorced * (2009) Eva Prinz marries Bernardo Guillermo, a furniture designer and the son of Princess Christina of the Netherlands; they have two kids, one before and one after the wedding * (2010) Kim Gordon finds out about Thurston's affair with Eva * (2011) Kim and Thurston separate; Sonic Youth split up * (2013) Kim and Thurston divorce * (by 2017) Thurston and Eva relocate to London * (2020) Thurston and Eva marry From the outside, assigning responsibility for anything here is kind of impossible and immoral, but the whole thing is remarkably cliched rock-and-roll nonsense for a band like Sonic Youth were...
- justinator 3y agoKim and Thurston were in an open marriage beforehand, so add a layer of complexity.
- rufus_foreman 3y ago>> the whole thing is remarkably cliched rock-and-roll nonsense They were married almost 30 years. It's a rock cliche to be dead by the age of 30, not to get a divorce after being married that long.
- bsder 3y agoIt is a shame, but stupid relationship drama seems to go hand in hand with high creativity. I don't know if this is just "creativity breeds madness", "fame allows people to be shitty", "most marriages fail", or simply "reporting bias" (happily married couples aren't juicy news).
- DoesntMatter22 3y agoThe idea that any musician can possibly be faithful to their wife, I'm just not even sure it's possible. It's like you hit the lottery and all the women are now chasing you. For most men that's pretty hard to resist.
- doubloon 3y agoit was more than just cheating. It was Thurston becoming the establishment, all of the supposed Gen-X values falling into ashes.
- tdullien 3y ago50% of marriages fail, 25% of surviving marriages are unhappy, so the odds of marrying, not divorcing, and being happy are a bit above 38%. 70% of divorces are initiated by women, and more in higher income brackets, yet only 50% of men undergoing divorce are unhappy about it, which means about 10% of married men are just waiting for their wives to take the first step in separation. I do not want to excuse dishonesty, deception, breach of trust etc., but marriages are hard, humans are fallible, and age has taught me to be less judgemental of people failing on a difficult endeavor.