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> objectively better Is this some braindead new trope on HN? I'm seeing it the second time on HN today. There is and cannot be anything objective about "bette

> objectively better Is this some braindead new trope on HN? I'm seeing it the second time on HN today. There is and cannot be anything objective about "better" unless the choice of "better" is explicitly and unambiguously stated. "Objectively taller"? OK. "Objectively more infectious"? Not impossible to show in context. "Objectively better"? Idiotic. My "better" is the opposite of yours, what now?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>is this some braindead new trope on HN? I'm seeing it the second time on HN today. There is and cannot be anything objective about "better" unless the choice of "better" is explicitly and unambiguously stated. Mate, I explicitly mentioned the meaning of "better" in the context of browsers: faster, less memory usage, longer battery life. If you have trouble reading text, maybe go back to finish school first before commenting on technical topics. Also, please stop acting like a 10 year old on X-box live insulting people calling them braindead just because you don't agree with their opinion. You're breaking HN rules.
- persnickety 3y ago
  Congrats, you defined "better". The post can't be complete without the "objectively" part though.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    You still haven't understood what objective means in the context of a web browser. That's what benchmarks and tests are for, to quantify objective performance of something be it a car or a web browser. You might not agree with the importance of certain benchmarks or performance metrics because you think the UI is more important to you, but that's called subjectivity then.
    - persnickety 3y ago
      "Objective" means "supported by verified facts". Benchmarks are facts. I'm not seeing those in your post.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38029705 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38029705 I guess using Google has become too complicated these days.
        persnickety 3y ago
        > Benchmark Score Microsoft Edge Google Chrome > Speedometer 2.1 252 277 ...further 4/5 benchmarks in favor of Chrome. There you go, now Edge is also objectively worse than Chrome. This is what I'm talking about. "Better" is in the eye of the beholder. There's nothing objective about it.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>is this some braindead new trope on HN? I'm seeing it the second time on HN today. There is and cannot be anything objective about "better" unless the choice of "better" is explicitly and unambiguously stated. Mate, I explicitly mentioned the meaning of "better" in the context of browsers: faster, less memory usage, longer battery life. If you have trouble reading text, maybe go back to finish school first before commenting on technical topics. Also, please stop acting like a 10 year old on X-box live insulting people calling them braindead just because you don't agree with their opinion. You're breaking HN rules.

persnickety 3y ago
Congrats, you defined "better". The post can't be complete without the "objectively" part though.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  You still haven't understood what objective means in the context of a web browser. That's what benchmarks and tests are for, to quantify objective performance of something be it a car or a web browser. You might not agree with the importance of certain benchmarks or performance metrics because you think the UI is more important to you, but that's called subjectivity then.
  - persnickety 3y ago
    "Objective" means "supported by verified facts". Benchmarks are facts. I'm not seeing those in your post.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38029705 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38029705 I guess using Google has become too complicated these days.
      - persnickety 3y ago
        > Benchmark Score Microsoft Edge Google Chrome > Speedometer 2.1 252 277 ...further 4/5 benchmarks in favor of Chrome. There you go, now Edge is also objectively worse than Chrome. This is what I'm talking about. "Better" is in the eye of the beholder. There's nothing objective about it.