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Serious Q for big Cloud spenders - how much have you negiotiated egress down from the list price?

by varsketiz 3y ago

AaronM 3y ago
Im not sure you can. At least at the scale we use AWS its a flat % off the top based on our spend
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  Ime you can when you apply some creative negotiation coupled with a multi-million $ spends. Usually to their peered (“partner”) networks though not generic transit
nmjohn 3y ago
If you can sign a yearly bandwidth commit (not sure what the minimum bandwidth requirement is, but 1PB / year may be in the ballpark) - you will get prices that are extremely competitive (maybe like 90%+ off base list pricing?)
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  You can get it down to ~1c/g at best then if you want cheaper you gotta build your own
  - Aachen 3y ago
    Did you see the sibling comment posted 45 minutes before you saying they pay 0.1c/g at aws when committing to spending 1500$/month?
    - dilyevsky 3y ago
      Did you see my comment in a sibling thread? If this was common then you could earn $$$ via egress arbitrage…
      - nmjohn 3y ago
        What would your hypothetical egress arbitrage look like? Keep in mind we are specifically talking about cloudfront bandwidth - so being able to route to an upstream without that upstream also paying for bandwidth likely is not possible.
        dilyevsky 3y ago
        1. Run a proxy in your VPC and redirect all CF requests to someone elses VPC 2. ???? 3. Profit! (assuming you charged them >2.1c/g)
  - nmjohn 3y ago
    In my experience pricing can go far lower than that. The sibling commenter saying $0.001/GB on an 18PB /year commit seems reasonable to me.
    - dilyevsky 3y ago
      You said 90% off which i’ve seen personally and amount to roughly 1c (most of the list starts at like 8-10c in the US). The sibling says they somehow got 90% off that original 90% which seems silly and def not something i would count on
speedgoose 3y ago
Not a extreme cloud spender but we have basically free egress on Azure. Well, "waived" for up to 15% of the total monthly bill so we can’t go too crazy. It’s not secret information: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-egress-fee-waiver-for-the-academic-community/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-egress-fee-waiv...
mannyv 3y ago
$1500/mo commit got our bandwidth down to < $.001/GB in AWS via CloudFront.
- omarfarooq 3y ago
  So the $23K DDOS bill at AWS from the article would be only $476. Not bad.

Serious Q for big Cloud spenders - how much have you negiotiated egress down from the list price?

AaronM 3y ago

Im not sure you can. At least at the scale we use AWS its a flat % off the top based on our spend

dilyevsky 3y ago
Ime you can when you apply some creative negotiation coupled with a multi-million $ spends. Usually to their peered (“partner”) networks though not generic transit

nmjohn 3y ago

If you can sign a yearly bandwidth commit (not sure what the minimum bandwidth requirement is, but 1PB / year may be in the ballpark) - you will get prices that are extremely competitive (maybe like 90%+ off base list pricing?)

dilyevsky 3y ago
You can get it down to ~1c/g at best then if you want cheaper you gotta build your own
- Aachen 3y ago
  Did you see the sibling comment posted 45 minutes before you saying they pay 0.1c/g at aws when committing to spending 1500$/month?
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    Did you see my comment in a sibling thread? If this was common then you could earn $$$ via egress arbitrage…
    - nmjohn 3y ago
      What would your hypothetical egress arbitrage look like? Keep in mind we are specifically talking about cloudfront bandwidth - so being able to route to an upstream without that upstream also paying for bandwidth likely is not possible.
      - dilyevsky 3y ago
        1. Run a proxy in your VPC and redirect all CF requests to someone elses VPC 2. ???? 3. Profit! (assuming you charged them >2.1c/g)
- nmjohn 3y ago
  In my experience pricing can go far lower than that. The sibling commenter saying $0.001/GB on an 18PB /year commit seems reasonable to me.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    You said 90% off which i’ve seen personally and amount to roughly 1c (most of the list starts at like 8-10c in the US). The sibling says they somehow got 90% off that original 90% which seems silly and def not something i would count on

speedgoose 3y ago

Not a extreme cloud spender but we have basically free egress on Azure. Well, "waived" for up to 15% of the total monthly bill so we can’t go too crazy. It’s not secret information: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-egress-fee-waiver-for-the-academic-community/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-egress-fee-waiv...

mannyv 3y ago

$1500/mo commit got our bandwidth down to < $.001/GB in AWS via CloudFront.

omarfarooq 3y ago
So the $23K DDOS bill at AWS from the article would be only $476. Not bad.