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In my (albeit limited) experience, if you can’t get some sort of provenance documentation for exotic hardwoods from the lumberyard, it’s almost guaranteed to be
by civilitty 3y ago
In my (albeit limited) experience, if you can’t get some sort of provenance documentation for exotic hardwoods from the lumberyard, it’s almost guaranteed to be unsustainably harvested, mostly outright illegally. Unfortunately it seems that most lumberyards open to the public and contractors are full of such wood because the legit stuff is even more expensive and sold mostly to high end furniture manufacturers and specialty suppliers.
Brazil is going to go through the same process as Cuba did with mahogany until trade in ipê is banned entirely, except it’s not an island so it’ll be impossible to enforce.
- jihadjihad 3y agoIt's OT, and not meant to detract from your point or be pedantic in any way, just something I've seen and heard in software, too: > providence when what I am sure you meant to say was "provenance". I've heard people talk and ask about the "providence of the data" too much not to leave a comment, I guess! It's not manna from heaven it's just some rows in a database somewhere ;)
- civilitty 3y agoThank you, good catch! I was researching the provenance of a rare book just yesterday so this is particularly embarrassing
- randomdata 3y ago> when what I am sure you meant to say was "provenance". Without the documentation being in protective care of God, can it truly be trusted?
- jihadjihad 3y ago"In God we trust. All others bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
- LadyCailin 3y agoPerhaps they meant documentation about the city in Rhode Island?
- hedora 3y agoI’ve never seen a lumberyard that doesn’t have sustainability certifications. Anyway, much of the illegal harvesting is due to Brazil’s right wing government actively encouraging people to burn the amazon to the ground. Though it would be hypocritical, we should treat that as an act of war. The greenhouse effect of that one action is going to cause trillions of damage to coastal cities alone.
- epx 3y agos/right wing/any wing/. Look up who built Belo Monte.
- londons_explore 3y ago> not an island so it’ll be impossible to enforce. Unlike drugs, wood is a bulky cargo. Sure, you might smuggle a few planks, but you aren't going to manage to smuggle tens of thousands of trucks full unless the government is deliberately turning a blind eye.
- Aurornis 3y ago> In my (albeit limited) experience, if you can’t get some sort of provenance documentation for exotic hardwoods from the lumberyard, it’s almost guaranteed to be unsustainably harvested, mostly outright illegally. If you can't get any provenance documentation, how are you assuming it's harvested illegally?
- civilitty 3y agoFunnily enough, a lot of the illegally harvested wood comes with great provenance information, if not official documentation. Unscrupulous manufacturers need to know where to reliably source it and corruption where these trees are harvested is rampant so they don't even need to hide it. I assume so because there's a significant price difference between those operations and legitimate sustainable ones when provenance is available. However I think the exotic wood that makes it to the average lumberyard comes almost exclusively from opportunistic small logging operations that stumble upon on groves of trees and cut them down and ship them out as fast as possible, oftentimes under the noses of the land owners (the state, natural reserves, etc.).
- rtsil 3y agoDocumentations are easy to buy in many countries where those exotic woods are sourced. Most of the traffic are done by people in the government or by those who put them there.