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Servitude is subjective. For me knowing I can't fire an employer or client at will, having to rely on them for years, knowing that if they do fire me i have max

Servitude is subjective. For me knowing I can't fire an employer or client at will, having to rely on them for years, knowing that if they do fire me i have max one month to find a new job or lose my house and uproot my family, is servitude. I want the sweet freedom America promises from day one. However, I do respect people that put up with it and I am not belittling anyone.

BurningFrog 3y ago
Att least in my day, that one month deadline was not enforced. As long as you didn't leave the country, nobody cared. Don't take my word for it, check with your immigration lawyer.
nateglims 3y ago
There are plenty of Americans who view working for a wage like this. Sometimes due to the precarity of their situation (e.g. deindustrialization reduced the number of jobs in manufacturing and some engineering fields) but often it's part of the freedom that was glamorized by the founding myth of the country. The country was founded by businessmen, plantation owners, and independent farmers. Now we venerate small business owners, people living off rents and assets, etc. Many of them view working for a wage with revulsion.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  > Now we venerate small business owners, people living off rents and assets, etc. That would be great if it were the case. But it seems like a good portion venerates corporations and wage slavery. > Many of them view working for a wage with revulsion. Couldn't agree more with working for a wage being repulsive. I think the US needs to get back closer to the founding myth you mentioned, and farther from the cancer of corporations turning everyone into wage slaves. There really is no freedom in that. My stomach turns inside out thinking that I was in favour of that. What a terrible mistake. Nothing against those forced to work as such often limited by the precarity of their situation.

BurningFrog 3y ago

Att least in my day, that one month deadline was not enforced. As long as you didn't leave the country, nobody cared. Don't take my word for it, check with your immigration lawyer.

nateglims 3y ago

There are plenty of Americans who view working for a wage like this. Sometimes due to the precarity of their situation (e.g. deindustrialization reduced the number of jobs in manufacturing and some engineering fields) but often it's part of the freedom that was glamorized by the founding myth of the country. The country was founded by businessmen, plantation owners, and independent farmers. Now we venerate small business owners, people living off rents and assets, etc. Many of them view working for a wage with revulsion.

gumballindie 3y ago
> Now we venerate small business owners, people living off rents and assets, etc. That would be great if it were the case. But it seems like a good portion venerates corporations and wage slavery. > Many of them view working for a wage with revulsion. Couldn't agree more with working for a wage being repulsive. I think the US needs to get back closer to the founding myth you mentioned, and farther from the cancer of corporations turning everyone into wage slaves. There really is no freedom in that. My stomach turns inside out thinking that I was in favour of that. What a terrible mistake. Nothing against those forced to work as such often limited by the precarity of their situation.