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Europe's demographics simply cannot support the size of their social safety nets. European countries are already relying more on immigrants, but immigration fr

Europe's demographics simply cannot support the size of their social safety nets. European countries are already relying more on immigrants, but immigration from central / eastern europe is already tapped out. That only leaves you with immigrants from beyond the EU. Most of those who have any skills are going to try to get into the US. The ones that can't are probably going to try and get residency / citizenship in canada and get in via a TN visa. Europe is left with the remainder, and unskilled migrants from cultures which frankly have a much harder time integrating into a western one. Over the long term it's a pretty dire situation.

jonkoops 3y ago
> European countries are already relying more on immigrants The birth rate in the US is 1.64, the EU average is 1.53. So this is almost equally true for the US, a country historically built on the backs of immigrants.
- spamizbad 3y ago
  The chickens are going to come home to roost soon enough wrt America's population growth. Lots of talk about what happens when the Boomers have fully exited the workforce, but 30+ years down the road when Millennials follow them we're going to be in a similar situation as Europe/China. My hope is that we open ourselves up more.
  - delfinom 3y ago
    That's happening sooner than you think. We are in the boomer retirement wave. The peak is within 5 years. The tail end is in 10 years (from now).
- wing-_-nuts 3y ago
  I don't have the stats in front of me, but when you factor in immigration the us is over 2.0 while Europe still lags.
delfinom 3y ago
>Europe's demographics simply cannot support the size of their social safety nets Neither can the US with social security, pensions and 401ks. All ponzi schemes created on infinite growth with the future generation paying off the last. The rate of pension bailouts by the Feds has been increasing even now.

jonkoops 3y ago

> European countries are already relying more on immigrants The birth rate in the US is 1.64, the EU average is 1.53. So this is almost equally true for the US, a country historically built on the backs of immigrants.

spamizbad 3y ago
The chickens are going to come home to roost soon enough wrt America's population growth. Lots of talk about what happens when the Boomers have fully exited the workforce, but 30+ years down the road when Millennials follow them we're going to be in a similar situation as Europe/China. My hope is that we open ourselves up more.
- delfinom 3y ago
  That's happening sooner than you think. We are in the boomer retirement wave. The peak is within 5 years. The tail end is in 10 years (from now).
wing-_-nuts 3y ago
I don't have the stats in front of me, but when you factor in immigration the us is over 2.0 while Europe still lags.

delfinom 3y ago

>Europe's demographics simply cannot support the size of their social safety nets Neither can the US with social security, pensions and 401ks. All ponzi schemes created on infinite growth with the future generation paying off the last. The rate of pension bailouts by the Feds has been increasing even now.