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For anyone interested in the the details, China Talk released a podcast last week on the updated export controls, which discussed the enormous quantity of ASML

by addy34 3y ago

For anyone interested in the the details, China Talk released a podcast last week on the updated export controls, which discussed the enormous quantity of ASML machinery purchased by China in the leadup to the regs being tightened [1]. From Bloomberg: "China accounted for 46% of ASML's sales in the third quarter, compared to 24% in the previous quarter and 8% in January to March." [1] https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/emergency-pod-export-controls-dropped/id1289062927?i=1000631805601 https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/emergency-pod-export-c... [1] https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jaGluYWVjb250YWxrLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/NTk4YmYzMWEtNmUxOC0xMWVlLWJjMzMtMDdjYjVjNTZlMDUz https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jaGluYWVjb250YWx...

hashtag-til 3y ago
> China accounted for 46% of ASML's sales in the third quarter Any idea on how many that represents? They don't produce like thousands per year, correct?
- tooltalk 3y ago
  It's all in ASML's 3Q IR presentation, "Net system sales breakdown (Quarterly)"- Q3'23 Net system sales €5,308 million, Sales in lithography units: 11 EUV, 32 Arfi, 9 ArFdry, 44 KrF, 16 i-Line. China has no access to EUV; no sales breakdown by model.
PaywallBuster 3y ago
Isn't ASML booked months/years in advance just as much as TSCM? Can they really order that much within months?
- tooltalk 3y ago
  This has been going on for a while and China had plenty of time to place orders ahead: "Wennink tells CNBC that the average lead time of ASML's machines is roughly a year and a half to two years and that “when you look at the relatively short expectations… of a potential recession, then customers are of course not canceling any orders because they could find themselves in the back of the queue when this" ...Jan 25, 2023

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For anyone interested in the the details, China Talk released a podcast last week on the updated export controls, which discussed the enormous quantity of ASML

by addy34 3y ago

hashtag-til 3y ago
> China accounted for 46% of ASML's sales in the third quarter Any idea on how many that represents? They don't produce like thousands per year, correct?
- tooltalk 3y ago
  It's all in ASML's 3Q IR presentation, "Net system sales breakdown (Quarterly)"- Q3'23 Net system sales €5,308 million, Sales in lithography units: 11 EUV, 32 Arfi, 9 ArFdry, 44 KrF, 16 i-Line. China has no access to EUV; no sales breakdown by model.
PaywallBuster 3y ago
Isn't ASML booked months/years in advance just as much as TSCM? Can they really order that much within months?
- tooltalk 3y ago
  This has been going on for a while and China had plenty of time to place orders ahead: "Wennink tells CNBC that the average lead time of ASML's machines is roughly a year and a half to two years and that “when you look at the relatively short expectations… of a potential recession, then customers are of course not canceling any orders because they could find themselves in the back of the queue when this" ...Jan 25, 2023